Spiderman vs Loki

[Cthulhu_of_R'lyeh]

He was, between that scene where he jumps acrobatically in between bullets from a machine gun, and the one where his reflexes+spider sense allow him to see everyone he has to save from getting fried by Electro in Times Square.

And yeah, thanks to his TASM 2 feats (dude was strong enough to catch a car mid-flight and support its weight when landing, and durable enough to survive getting hit by Electro, who was shown to be able to kill people by making holes in their chests), he wins against Loki.

Should also be noted that he was able to, upon impact, flip over a bus that was in the process of flipping onto its side, land in front of it and stop it from tipping, saving the old dude and kid in front of him. Not nearly as strong as the train-stopping feat, but it's still a nice feat.

Not to mention the ludicrous soak Garfield Spidey had.

Or the missile slapping feat at the end.

[Holacik]

Meh, pretty sure that with his train-stopping feat, Maguire Spidey should have enough oomph to eventually knock Loki out. In the meantime, Loki should have a hard time tagging him.

Loki is pretty damn good with those illusions, I can see him using that to beat him.

[Primetime Harder]

Loki is pretty damn good with those illusions, I can see him using that to beat him.

Would those trigger the Spider-Sense though?

[frankiedetroit]

Meh, pretty sure that with his train-stopping feat, Maguire Spidey should have enough oomph to eventually knock Loki out. In the meantime, Loki should have a hard time tagging him.

It's not a fist fight, though. And even if it was, Loki survived being rammed by the Hulk with such force that he flew across the room and smashed into the wall. Yet he immediately stood up and began pontificating before said pontificating was interrupted by said Hulk slamming him into the ground five times. At the end of that, Loki was certainly down for a 10 count, but his eyes were open and IIRC he was fully aware when the full team of Avengers showed up (an indeterminate amount of time later, but seemed like it wasn't TOO long).

Neither Spidey packs Hulk-like power so I'm not seeing either being able to stop Loki from completing his mission.

[Godzilla2099]

Loki solos both.

Especially with prep time. He's got god knows how many years of experience, Loki is very clever, excellent with sorcery and illusions, and extremely durable.

He'd probably end up blackmailing both Spider-Men to fight each other, then trap them in ice cubes when he gets bored.

[Primetime Harder]

Loki survived being rammed by the Hulk with such force that he flew across the room and smashed into the wall.

One punch from an angry Hulk is probably equivalent to a hundred from Spider-Man. Loki's got the durability. And I'm pretty sure that in his many, many years of experience he's figured out how to deal with quick opponents.

[Basara]

Meh, pretty sure that with his train-stopping feat, Maguire Spidey should have enough oomph to eventually knock Loki out. In the meantime, Loki should have a hard time tagging him.

When Maguire Spidey tried to stop it by himself, he almost got himself killed. He needed a ton of webbing to assist him in stopping it and even with all that webbing assisting him, the feat knocked him out. Mr. Incredible Maguire Spidey isn't.

Meanwhile, Loki was going toe to toe with Thor in Avengers. You know, the guy who threw down with Hulk and Iron Man. Also, Loki takes explosives to the face and ends up unmarred. Maguire Spidey takes explosives to the face and ends up bloody. This guy is beyond even both Spideys working together.

Also, Loki is a master of illusion and neither movie Spidey has shown the ability to be able to see through illusions. Comic Spidey can, but comic Loki is so far above comic Spidey in terms of sheer raw power, that makes no difference.

This is a total curbstomp for Loki in all scenarios.

[Radioactive Zombie]

Why bother to include the comic versions? Spidey is a bug to Loki, let alone with prep.

Honestly, that scepter of his doesn't seem to be uber strong or homing or the like. I recall it being like a regular rifle.

If Spidey - either version - keeps his distance, he can keep him webbed up.

[Primetime Harder]

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He can't web up a guy who's casting magic on him from another dimension.

[big_adventure]

Honestly, that scepter of his doesn't seem to be uber strong or homing or the like. I recall it being like a regular rifle.

If Spidey - either version - keeps his distance, he can keep him webbed up.

I strongly question whether the ASM webbing can hold Loki at all, given how easily the Lizard shredded the stuff.

[Jonathan]

MacGuire Spiderman is stronger, faster and his spidersense can protect him from illusions; Loki can survive the beating, but that's not near enough to overcome MacGuire's advantages here.

[FrenchGemini]

MacGuire Spiderman is stronger, faster and his spidersense can protect him from illusions; Loki can survive the beating, but that's not near enough to overcome MacGuire's advantages here.

When did Spider-Tobey show the ability to use the spider-sense against illusions? Just asking for the sake of asking, since they are a non-factor here.

[Jonathan]

When did Spider-Tobey show the ability to use the spider-sense against illusions? Just asking for the sake of asking, since they are a non-factor here.

I guess you have a point, but he does have feats of it protecting him against the surprise attacks made on him through the use of disguise, which would essentially be the point of illusions anyways.

Regardless, illusions are Loki's one card here, against the many that Spidey has.

[zhris]

There wouldn't be a fight. Loki would spend the first few days mesmerizing all of Spidey's loved ones, who would then be hidden in various places and commanded to harm themselves if he doesn't simply surrender.

[Basara]

I guess you have a point, but he does have feats of it protecting him against the surprise attacks made on him through the use of disguise, which would essentially be the point of illusions anyways.

Illusions not only disguise, they also confuse, as Loki demonstrated twice against Thor. A Spidey that is dedicated to attacking what he thinks is Loki is wide open to attack from the real one. It's one of the reasons why a fully prepped Mysterio has given Spidey really difficult times in the comics. What Mysterio has to prep for, Loki can do in his sleep. This was the guy whom effortlessly made it look to all watching like he sacrificed himself when he killed Kurse. It's questionable that either Spidey is actually ever touching Loki because MCU Loki is that good at illusions.

Btw, the two Spidey match-up on Loki will be a absolute field day for Loki, as he casually has Maguire and Garfield attacking each other while thinking they are fighting real Loki. Sit back, relax, watch the two heroes tire themselves out dodging each other's attacks, kill winner. Game over.

Regardless, illusions are Loki's one card here, against the many that Spidey has.

Not even close to true. MCU Loki is far more durable and stronger than Spidey, and his magic isn't just limited to illusion. If either Spidey actually can manage to hit him (not an easy task without an AoE attack, just ask Thor), I doubt it will even hurt Loki.

There wouldn't be a fight. Loki would spend the first few days mesmerizing all of Spidey's loved ones, who would then be hidden in various places and commanded to harm themselves if he doesn't simply surrender.

It doesn't even have to be loved ones. Any innocent bystanders will do.