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    Default Are Raze and Charles still in the 616

    Just wondering if they will ever address the children of Xavier Wolverine and Mystique. In this new era. Isn't it established that both 616 versions are born and out there some where? Weren't both adult versions arrested by SHEILD?

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    God I hope not. Leave those disasters in limbo.

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    Last they were seen, they were lost in time. No further appearances since X-Men: Blue,


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    Let's hope not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PyroFN View Post
    Last they were seen, they were lost in time. No further appearances since X-Men: Blue,

    My gosh lets hope that Raze stays stuck. He was an ill conceived character by BMB as usual in an awful event. NC didn't need another brother this would be number 4. And any connection to Xavier is best left forgotten.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PyroFN View Post
    Last they were seen, they were lost in time. No further appearances since X-Men: Blue,

    Based on that page, they seem less lost in time and more dead. It seems like the implication is that Magneto killed them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kurolegacy View Post
    Based on that page, they seem less lost in time and more dead. It seems like the implication is that Magneto killed them.
    Yeeessss!!!

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    I was wondering the same about the Secret Wars version of the Goblin Queen, Black Cyclops from Exiles and Prophet from AoA.

    All are still supposed to be walking around somewhere.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kurolegacy View Post
    Based on that page, they seem less lost in time and more dead. It seems like the implication is that Magneto killed them.
    I mean yeah. I only say as much because we don’t see it on panel, plus they’ve come back before when they have been defeated in the past through time shenanigans. But implications do indicate Magneto was at least intending to kill them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by loke13 View Post
    God I hope not. Leave those disasters in limbo.
    Agreed. And Wolverine has too many damn kids/spinoffs as it is. One (Laura) was more than enough. Now we’ve got Daken and Gabby too, plus alt reality James Hudson (aka Poison) running around with a symbiote. The absolute last thing these books needs is yet another clawed Wolverine spinoff character/offspring. Enough is quite enough.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jackraow21 View Post
    Agreed. And Wolverine has too many damn kids/spinoffs as it is. One (Laura) was more than enough. Now we’ve got Daken and Gabby too, plus alt reality James Hudson (aka Poison) running around with a symbiote. The absolute last thing these books needs is yet another clawed Wolverine spinoff character/offspring. Enough is quite enough.
    And one that is also related to Kurt that this would be bro number 4. He also has a sister. A story best left forgotten.

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    10 foot poles were invented for reasons such as these two.

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    Raze is unfortunately worm food however Incel Charley II is around and occasionally shows up psi cloaked as Raze to torment his mother.

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