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    Default Would it be hard to believe that someone so pure of heart can also be a pervert?

    Esp. if the person actually used to be an upstanding average citizen who's known to be usually very sensible and looks young and innocent.

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    This... is going to be a hard one to gauge, as everyone has their own taboos and concepts of what "perversion" is.

    As the old joke goes:

    "What's the difference between kinky and perverted?"

    Kinky is where you use a feather. Perverted is if you use the whole chicken."



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    Anyway, the expression you're asking, that totally exists is if someone can have a pure heart, but a dirty mind.

    Sure, why not.
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    Since you used the term 'Used to Be', that can also imply a personality change due to a mental disorder, dementia, or emotional/psychological trauma.

    Aside from that, I read a newspaper article about a women who described how her father, who used to be very liberal, started to listen to conservative talk radio which lead to a descent into right wing conspiracy theories.

    You never know what might change a person.

    As for being double sided, everyone has an angel and devil on their shoulders. Anyone who has never caught themselves thinking about something they normally wouldn't think about isn't human. The trick is controlling those thoughts and acting only on the ones that make you a decent member of society.

    Also the concept of young and innocent isn't. Young children are usually the most innocent of our lot, yet they are also the ones most likely to say and do things that make adults blush, even if they do them without understanding why it is not good to do so. Usually by imitating what they see and/or hear.
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    Pervert doesn't have a strong meaning for me anymore, because it's been used to condemn people who are doing no harm and justify violence toward them.

    If the chicken is already dead, where's the harm? If the chicken is alive, that's animal abuse and shouldn't be tolerated.

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    What is pure of heart and what is perversion. Perversion usually denotes some sexual taste that is not usual. But that idea comes from a sexually repressive mindset. If someone's sexual taste is with a consenting adult, I say we shouldn't pass judgment.
    A pure heart sounds a little too religious for me as well.

    An example from Tyranny would help.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kirby101 View Post
    What is pure of heart and what is perversion. Perversion usually denotes some sexual taste that is not usual. But that idea comes from a sexually repressive mindset. If someone's sexual taste is with a consenting adult, I say we shouldn't pass judgment.
    A pure heart sounds a little too religious for me as well.

    An example from Tyranny would help.
    I think we can agree the chicken qualifies, at least.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tyrannoraptor View Post
    Esp. if the person actually used to be an upstanding average citizen who's known to be usually very sensible and looks young and innocent.
    The Facebook world is bursting at the seams with self-important, virtue signaling scolds that are in it just for the likes. Religious bible thumper's are the best when they fall from grace.

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    It depends on what you consider perversion. Some might see it as seeing the streamy movie and TV show or read that steamy romance/erotic book or comic. Some might consider masturbators as perverts or anyone with a fantasy life. Even all withing legal bounds. However, rapists and pedophiles and sexual sadists (I am not talking consensual kink - but then there is another "ymmv" I personally think none of the former should even be YMMV unless you are an outright asexual supremist, or against the freedoms of the modern world). If its criminal I give it the pervert label. Serial Killers used to get off on simply strangling and they didn't even have to have sex with their victims and there is decapitation and cannibalism. Anyway, There may be a rare instance that someone guilty or rape, child rape etc may still retain some purity if they are truly sorry and want to change their ways. Oh, again... Did I say that's rare? As in very? I am not just talking about reading the "good book." I am agnostic btw, but I know how it goes. But really wanting to and feeling it.
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