Yeah, that was my first thought: "oh, they must be planning to pair him with Tim". Literally the first thought that popped into my head, and there's no way in hell that DC/WB isn't thinking it, too.
Right? The crazy thing is, I have absolutely zero issue with Jon being bi, and 999% issue with the fact that he's skipped more years than we've seen him live - and all because lazy comics writers can't get over puberty and fail at writing kids so badly that most just refuse to do so. *That's* what I'll always be pissed about.
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That's generally true, but I've repeatedly heard the Post-Crisis comics talked about as "soap opera-style" in a decidedly derisive way, so I wouldn't say never, at least with Superman.
I don't mean to take away from your point because it's well-taken, I just had to be a nerd and point that out.
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It completely depends if they give Jon other options. For example Wiccan and Hulking have only been together. So when they tried to do some shifting with the pairing there was some blow back at the writer. Same can be said for any pairing thats long term. So if they push them as the One true pairing here, you might see that reaction to it.
As a die hard Billy & Teddy Fan I must say it's a lil different I had no problem with them seeing other people majority didn't the way it was done was through adultery because a man who's now dating Billy's twin brother forced himself on Teddy, & then told him to dump Billy it's all very messy.
Oh no, that's a good point as well. See also the Love Square of the Damned over in X-Men (or just Rogue's "Ah cain't touch you Remy!!").
But at least those generally have the chance to wear thin, whereas sometimes this excuse is trotted out right out of the gate when a queer romance is just announced.
To be honest, the argument that i usually heard with straight pairings in my expirience is "this pairing is bland/underdevoloped and it wasn't needed for the story". With that said, i'm certain that there is a lot of homophia coming from those that criticize this idea.
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Comic romances are very hard to establish these days especially longterm ones that are just so iconic that they always have to come back to one another eventually. Jon & Jay will never be like Clark & Lois, Dick & Babs/Kori, Cyclops & Jean, Peter & MJ, Wiccan & Hulkling, pairings like that are really hard to do for modern writers.
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I remember and I was ticked off by it too. But thats the thing Marvel read the reaction as, "Can't split them up," and now that they are married its double that issue because one has to die or go missing for a break up because divorce is messy.
Yup, all the time, or that the non powered person is not going to make it physically having relationships with the powered character.
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I think you still can, but you have to work for it. Bruno and Kamala for example, and for a while Miles and Kamala are two I can think of. Tim and Steph or Kathy and Renée. Both are modern.
And this is the issue. Even if Tom puts a lot into it. If they are doing the "he's Magneto " with Jay it becomes a waste as you can't have Charles and Erik together as they can't see eye to eye for long periods of time.
I'm not so sure about that lol. I've often seen people over the years say they hate romance (hetero or otherwise) and prefer only action. The whole "so and so should not get engaged or married or have kids because it'll "ruin" the character" argument is quite a common one in the fandom.
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