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Agreed with the first statement. I'm pretty sure that if younger Jon came out as Bi or indicated he might have feelings for a boy too along with say Kathy, then yeah, could totally see people supporting it and Jon fans being like "Oh cool okay" and cheering it because of storytelling. You're right most Queer characters are typically over the age of 15 or so so. I feel like having Jon be younger and dealing with these feelings would do a lot more for younger readers than what this is doing now. It just feels like someone really wanted to do Hulking and Wiccan in a hurry in regard to aging him up. You could have had Jay be his age and have him be a younger teen as well.
Well if they just go and let Chris be re adopted by Clark and Lois and then let her have a daughter you have that. But I do think I would prefer to have the three all be kids right now. Jon 14/13, Chris 12, and a baby girl. Though knowing DC they would age up their daughter and have her hook up with Damian for reasons.
I agree, if they were to just replace him I think it would really suck because you can't just capture lighting in a bottle again. Jon hit all the right points that made him unique, the same way young Chris did, and it would feel like DC is like "Have your cake and eat it too." Agreed I'd be happy with a 13-14 year old Jon would fit for a lot of younger readers who could come in from books like My Hero Academia.
Given they did this stunt with Chris, had him have a full love interest and then had him get de-aged just before the reboot, I would say I'd put money on it too. Given the SuperSon's movie is going to be coming out, I would be safely betting that DC would want to push for some form of synergy with it. Either they'll de-age Jon, or (and piss of the Damian fans in the process) age up Damian to be around Jon's age now.
Same here. I'm fine with bi Jon. What I don't like is Jon not getting a full time to grow and cutting him off short unlike say Kon, Tim or even Damian.
Clark and Lois tend to get the short stick when it comes to other media of showing off comics. They never give them time to explore either's personality, which is rather sad. Glad you got to like them though they can both be awesome.
Yeah, it's really weird that he made the choices that he did. I guess he really wanted the Legion book to have a Superboy as part of it.
Oh, let's not forget that now that Jay has powers you won't have the issue of "Women made of kleneex" regarding their relationship. I noticed they did the same with Bernard too regarding Tim. Like the guy has to protect himself or something.
Regarding Jay, you can have him be a fanboy of Lois and a Reporter, but make him different. Hell, right off the top of my head. give him the "Parker Luck" have him be always running into issues as a reporter. Rather than write articles, have him be a photographer or a like an online anchor or something else, an editor or someone who focuses on specialized commentary.
Jon being like his dad to the point of being a younger twin is not a good thing. That's a good way of describing Jon. A canvas you can throw things at and see what sticks. That's both a good thing in some ways as you can take risks, but bad in that the worst things can be thrown in there too. So you don't know if you'll get a great arc or a crap arc. And all stories will be remembered, even ones no one wants readers to think about.
I was honestly hoping that he would be more like his mom in some ways, and choose to be in something different than his parents when they made him older, you know down the line, not right away. Not to mention again, he needs to figure out his own role and not just have a LI that fast. Heck it took years for Lois to hook up with Clark, should take a longer time for Jay to learn to like Jon like that if they want this to be the One True Pairing. Unless Jay is going to become the Catwoman/Magento/Lex figure in which case, why do this to Jon?
Okay so I can answer this one. It is harder to break up same sex couples in comics than it is to break up opposite sex couples. Some larger examples. Runaways: After Xavin left Karolina in order to protect her, Karolina started to date Julie Powers, leading to a very sweet couple that had a lot of interesting moments in the few stories that they were allowed to be shown together. They were a good strong match and made sense given their power sets and other similar interests. It was a well made pairing, and then the latest author really wanted Karolina and Nico as a couple and split up Julie and Karolina. Not by a traditional break up, oh no. She de aged Julie so they couldn't be together because of age differences. So the 20 year old is now 12 and her girlfriend is just like "Well moving on to the hot chick I've been best friends with."
In Young Avengers the second series, they tried to split Wiccan and Hulking for a while, that didn't last. They're married now.
More writers are willing to split up MJ and Peter, or Lois and Clark, or Diana and Steve, than splitting up the few Same sex couples out there. So there's always the danger of being like "This is the OTP" even if there could be better characters for them down the line.
Given it's WB I can honestly see it happening that way.
Sorry, but anyone who thinks we'll ever see Jon with a romantic female love interest again is being incredibly naive. This is essentially a way for DC to win the holdouts over: "See, he's not gay, he's bisexual....he *may* sometime in the *future* date women again, so don't lose hope!" As others have pointed out, comic companies absolutely do not want the hellstorm waiting for them on Twitter if they try to break up a gay couple.
you're right! So clearly dc has no notion of what to be Bi , or we have a( Bi) straight (wonder woman) and apparently we'll have a Gay( Bi) (Jon Kent) clearly the peoples have no idea what to be bi is, I dont have much either but i always see my cousin who is bi with men ,women and others and he had a child last month , I like The Witcher and I always see people erasing Ciri's bisexuality and putting her as a lesbian but she's been with men and women ,I say this because my cousin always complains about people trying to invalidate his Bisexuality, Maybe it's because people don't understand how a person can like men and women . If I'm talking nonsense I apologize .. i apologize too for my English bad but english is not my native language but i am learning,I'm studying in Utah they have a very adorable accent.
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Oh you’re one of the people who I’m seeing all over the Internet screaming that Twitter will freak out if Jon ever dates a girl again lol. Ok I don’t think you really understand how stuff works. If Jon and Jay break up I guarantee you aren’t going to see a “hell storm” erupt lmao.
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Unless they make Jay just like f*cking Iconic I highly doubt people will care that much if him Jon ever do break up.
My only complaint about the Yara book is all the unfortunate delays. Its pretty slick so far but def a buzzkill to have to wait so long in between issues.
As for Jon, among the predictable (and often comically uninformed) backlash, Superman is not gay and loves "Louis Lane."
https://bleedingcool.com/comics/wend...es-louis-lane/
“Look, you can’t put the Superman #77s with the #200s. They haven’t even discovered Red Kryptonite yet. And you can’t put the #98s with the #300s, Lori Lemaris hasn’t even been introduced.” — Sam
“Where the hell are you from? Krypton?” — Edgar Frog
Jay has zero staying power. I don't think anyone that reads comics thinks the character will be around for long. He only exists to help with the whole Jon is bi story. It is the same as the Catwoman female love interest from a few years back that no one can remember her name, or all the original created love interests that litter modern comics. That is just how relationships in comics work. You need already established characters to be a new love interest if you want it to have a chance at lasting I think, as they have higher odds of carrying over through multiple runs or other media, but once a writer leaves no future writer is going to care about characters like Jay. They would rather use their own characters.
Because this is what happened when John Constantine and Selina Kyle were revealed to be bi they only stayed in non-het relationships- oh wait.
DC only does that with Poison Ivy and Harley Quinn because it's the most popular ship for both characters and there are not many alternative ships for both characters. The only other examples of non-het couples DC would never break up I can think of involve characters who are gay/lesbian rather than bi.
december 21st has passed where are my superpowers?