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    Default X-MEN #4 Reviews/Spoilers Thread

    Nightmare came.

    Jean Grey conquered.

    Urich is taking notes and getting hotter.

    Is Feilong Captain Krakoa...?

    The issue opens with Jean and Scott sleeping, in the throes of nightmares centered on past traumas before Nightmare reveals himself. Nightmare takes a particular liking to Jean and delves a little more into her past before going after Laura, revealing that she has nightmares about the Vault and all that she doesn't remember.

    Jean interrupts him, grabbing him on the Astral Plane (?) and warning him that she will "end" him if he doesn't leave her and her team alone. Nightmare vows that she has "made an enemy this night," before she dispels him completely. Lastly, she wishes the world "sweet dreams" and may have influenced those around her telepathically to sleep more peacefully, though this is not explicitly stated.

    Later, Urich is seen at the cemetery taking notes. The grave of Nathan Summers is prominently shown.

    Feilong is in space and subjects himself to the rays being shot through a ruby quartz diamond, noting "I vowed my body would be prepared for Mars...and so it shall be."

    The end.

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    No details on the spoilers? No full review?

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    Fam add more details to this post or you run the risk of it getting deleted.

    As a Jean fan; loved it. As a Laura fan; hated it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kingdom X View Post
    Fam add more details to this post or you run the risk of it getting deleted.

    As a Jean fan; loved it. As a Laura fan; hated it.
    I didn't realize that. Will do!

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    Updated the op.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mercury View Post
    Updated the op.
    It was acknowledged Jean was the Dark Phoenix and also teen Jean. We saw her in the Hellfire Gala costume and in the green Phoenix costume.

    She totally owned Nightmare and said she is an omega telepath AND telekinetic. She let him hi but said she would end him if he showed up again.

    I like how she said to atone for what she did as Dark Phoenix she will leave the world and universe in a better place.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WallStreeter View Post
    It was acknowledged Jean was the Dark Phoenix and also teen Jean. We saw her in the Hellfire Gala costume and in the green Phoenix costume.

    She totally owned Nightmare and said she is an omega telepath AND telekinetic. She let him hi but said she would end him if he showed up again.

    I like how she said to atone for what she did as Dark Phoenix she will leave the world and universe in a better place.
    True! Also, there might have been a new costume reveal!

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    I enjoyed this issue. I felt if there had to be one that wasn't drawn by Larraz, this would be it. The art did a great job capturing the "Devil's Night" and nightmare feel of the issue.
    Jean definitely flexed on Nightmare and I'm still happy with the writing on this book. I missed seeing Synch, but he'll be back.
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    Overall it was a good issue and it was a good showing for Jean so congrats to her fans. Looking forward to next month and hopefully seeing more of the team.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WallStreeter View Post
    It was acknowledged Jean was the Dark Phoenix and also teen Jean. We saw her in the Hellfire Gala costume and in the green Phoenix costume.

    She totally owned Nightmare and said she is an omega telepath AND telekinetic. She let him hi but said she would end him if he showed up again.

    I like how she said to atone for what she did as Dark Phoenix she will leave the world and universe in a better place.
    Glad someone else caught the wording on that too. Is it a typo like Emma being an omega telepath or is Duggan having jean shatter the glass ceiling. I do have to say most omegas because of their powers have a vastness to it so i like the idea of her being both but i also don't know if it was intentional thought it reads as a fact.
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    I'm sorry to say it, but this was a bummer. Even X-Force this week was better. I don't know what Duggan intended with this Nightmare story, but it accomplished nothing for me. At this point, at issue 4, I'd rather read the X-men team talking during breakfast about their Halloween plans, showing how they are feeling about this new X-men incarnation and what not, than to just have this villain attack and Jean to stop him. Nothing against a Jean focused issue, but it was not even interesting enough. Feels like filler and I don't think it is time for this.

    Duggan sometimes is very decompressed, a thing I hate in comics. That is a big problem he had in some parts of Marauders and mostly Cable, but he didn't do that in this book... Until now.

    Great art though. Pina is very talented and created some cool scenes. The one with Cyclops in a coffin was great. Meh colors.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Weather View Post
    Great art though. Pina is very talented and created some cool scenes. The one with Cyclops in a coffin was great. Meh colors.
    This one! I think Pina will be great fill-in artist moving forward.

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    It was alright but it feels like Duggan is stalling until the next relaunch. This issue barely moved things forward.

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    While I want to note that I understand how fans of other characters feel about not having their favorites showcased (BELIEVE ME, I understand), I also want to say that Jean has deserved this focus and level of writing for a long time. Moreover, she was placed on the backburner for most of Hickman's run and I never let it cloud my judgment or make me dislike Hickman's wonderful work. I only hope some of you can be as objective.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Weather View Post
    I'm sorry to say it, but this was a bummer. Even X-Force this week was better. I don't know what Duggan intended with this Nightmare story, but it accomplished nothing for me. At this point, at issue 4, I'd rather read the X-men team talking during breakfast about their Halloween plans, showing how they are feeling about this new X-men incarnation and what not, than to just have this villain attack and Jean to stop him. Nothing against a Jean focused issue, but it was not even interesting enough. Feels like filler and I don't think it is time for this.

    Duggan sometimes is very decompressed, a thing I hate in comics. That is a big problem he had in some parts of Marauders and mostly Cable, but he didn't do that in this book... Until now.

    Great art though. Pina is very talented and created some cool scenes. The one with Cyclops in a coffin was great. Meh colors.
    I totally agree. Great art, nothing more. Also, I don't like when characters are made too powerful.
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