Perfectly said. This is a hobby we all enjoy and while it's perfectly normal to feel passionate about these characters, we can be respectful.
Agreed.
Agreed. "Omega" has seemed like only a label, IMO, until recently so I'm happy to see evidence of said label.
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I think she can handle what Nightmare threw at her here, as in dream/mind manip.The problem is that he has so much more that Jean or most heroes just can't take.Seriously even outside his own realm he is an immensly powerful magician.
She's an omega level TP and heck let's say she's an Omega level TK as well.Those 2 things aren't enough to take out Nightmare in an actual battle.I'm not insinuating what she did was an outlier, she can take him in a TP fight IMO but they took most of Nightmare's powers away, he literally didn't use his powers.
Also There is a massive diff. b/w being useless and doing this, but ignoring the fact nightmare didn't use his powers it's still an insane feat and I wonder how they are gonna keep this consistent throughout the run because if she can do this 99% of X-men problems are nothing to her.
Also also just want to say that this is a Jean focus issue and yet most comments are stuck on one panel of Laura/Synch........
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Yeah I guess that Nightmare could have weakeness agaisnt tp. I think I'm just worried of Jean being put into the too powerful bracket and never getting used. If Jean can beat anyone and everyone, what's the point of having the other X-Men around?
But actually I think you are right. An omega has no upper limit of power. So doing things like this should come standard to omegas.
It was an awesome show of her power.
Wait, so was there a thread filles with racism by X-23 fans? Because there is difference between some comments, which are bad and I sincerely condamn them, and that we are raiding every thread with rasism. Also, if threads were filled with that wouldn't people be banned? I've seen threads disappear and people having bans for some time so I though something works here, and we cannot post some stuff because we'll be removed from forums. Also, one sentence below I said that rest of fans don't agree and reply to that comments. Also, I'm not native english speaker, I don't know what you mean. But if your calling me idiot for what I said, I guess I heard that enough in last 2 days each time I expressed my opinion. I never said there is no issue at all, it surly happened, just not as much as the person I replied to accused us of.
This is the same Jean Grey that neutralized symbiote god, Knull when everyone else seemed ineffective towards him
But doesnt all his power come from when a person is sleeping? He affects the person on the Astral plane which is Jean's playground. What could he have realistically have done to her?
And as far as this fear that she can take on 99% of the X-men's problems is a gross exaggeration. This was one issue against a mental threat. Her TP was useless in the first issue when that creature had TP resistance and Jean's role amounted to delegating orders and shielding the civilians. The entire team combined their powers to beat the threat. In #2, she used her powers to get intel to inform Sunfire, how he could beat the threat. She didnt really do anything in #3 besides project a TP image and TK shield herself when attacked. Duggan isnt about to have her oneshot the enemies from here on out.
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As a Laura fan I would be way more on board with this relationship if it had been handled better. If there had been an eXiles series about the Vault team and there was more depth to the relationship than three panels and some narration from another character I might be on board and even very interested in seeing if she wants the memories or not. Even without that a skilled writer could weave in her long-standing issues of souls and identity into a discussion of whether Vault Laura was her and if she wants the memories back or not. I could see an argument either way that would be in character for her. Or if what we got was a relationship built up after the Vault where Synch was more interested in bonding with current Laura than giving her his memories. Or if there was any acknowledgment that giving her those memories wouldn’t bring the woman he loved back or even guarantee Laura would love him. So many interesting things you could do with this.
But we didn’t get those arcs. Instead we got a tell-not-show relationship between two characters who hadn’t even interacted before (or been alive and in comics at the same time lol). And Laura hasn’t really been written in character since Uncanny X-Men began. This just feels like lazy writing. I’m glad Synch fans get him having a real arc after actual decades, and I don’t think that would be possible without tying him to an A-lister. I just wish this romance was written by someone with any knowledge at all of one half of it. Because only knowing about one side (and only getting one side’s POV) is going to make the whole thing less compelling.
Also I can’t see Marvel giving any other A-lister to a string of like five writers who don’t even know the archetype she’s supposed to fill and have never read a comic she played a major role in.
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That is her best modern TP feat I think , so good.
EDIT:Since someone else already pointed it she didn't "neutralize" him, she got some info and was dazed and overwhelmed and Knull wasn't even damaged.I still think it's her best/one of the best feats since who Knull is but Knull hasn't shown any resistance to Psychic attacks IIRC.
He has magic, as in reality warping levels of magic.He didn't even use it here.
https://comicvine.gamespot.com/night...mp-ve-2037074/
I should note some of the feats in that RT are when he is in his realm where he is much stronger.
Exactly my point:-You're telling me she can be effective in using TP against Knull and casually own Nightmare in TP and yet can't take a random creature down w/ it.I know he's not going to do that, my question is how do you justify it.Again they can use excuses against characters that aren't well established but most of X-men's enemies of Earth and many of the space ones should be fodder to her.
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