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    Quote Originally Posted by Lukmendes View Post
    Thinking of it, wonder if someone in Krakoa broke Ben's record of number of deaths by now, also wonder if Death lost interest after Ben .
    Quintin Quire has died a lot, like around 5-6 in X force(they had an whole issue about his deaths), 1 in wolverine and then multiple in Inferno(16 total but not all were X force strike team).I count 7 wolvie skeletons on one panel so plus 7 minimum.That's a lot.

    I'd say Jean is getting up there too, she had 15 already and then 2 more that I know of in HOX/POX.

    Peter himself is at 11, Kindred himself killed him 9 times IIRC.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spiderfan001 View Post
    Quintin Quire has died a lot, like around 5-6 in X force(they had an whole issue about his deaths), 1 in wolverine and then multiple in Inferno(16 total but not all were X force strike team).I count 7 wolvie skeletons on one panel so plus 7 minimum.That's a lot.

    I'd say Jean is getting up there too, she had 15 already and then 2 more that I know of in HOX/POX.

    Peter himself is at 11, Kindred himself killed him 9 times IIRC.
    Peter has died more than 2 times outside of Kindred (and I wonder if those Kindred kills were illusions/hallucinations).

    Peter had ‘The Other’ and ASM #700. He also died briefly during the Clone Saga before his powers returned. He died during a botched rescue in an early adjectiveless issue of Spider-Man (#17) and was revived by Thanos or Death. And there’s probably been a couple others I’m forgetting.

    EDIT: I think he (along with most Marvel heroes) was also killed during Infinity War or Infinity Gauntlet (always get the two confused), but time was later rewinded back before his death. Not sure of the details, it’s been so many years since I read it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HypnoHustler View Post
    Peter has died more than 2 times outside of Kindred (and I wonder if those Kindred kills were illusions/hallucinations).

    Peter had ‘The Other’ and ASM #700. He also died briefly during the Clone Saga before his powers returned. He died during a botched rescue in an early adjectiveless issue of Spider-Man (#17) and was revived by Thanos or Death. And there’s probably been a couple others I’m forgetting.

    EDIT: I think he (along with most Marvel heroes) was also killed during Infinity War or Infinity Gauntlet (always get the two confused), but time was later rewinded back before his death. Not sure of the details, it’s been so many years since I read it.
    Judging by the combination of Evil Harry AI And Mysterio I reckon that those deaths were allucinatios/Illusions

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spiderfan001 View Post
    Quintin Quire has died a lot, like around 5-6 in X force(they had an whole issue about his deaths), 1 in wolverine and then multiple in Inferno(16 total but not all were X force strike team).I count 7 wolvie skeletons on one panel so plus 7 minimum.That's a lot.
    Man I actually didn't notice the "Mutants from Krakoa, the same ones, over and over" line... The X-Men are dumb enough to only send the same strike team to deal with Nimrod when they bother sending mutants? ****...

    This page here details a bit of each attack:

    https://i.imgur.com/6xtN8hD.png

    (Inferno#1 vol 2)

    Considering that Devo guy says that when they send mutants, it's the same team, and we have 6 "Insertion/Breach/Attack" types with "result unknown", which lines up with Devo guy saying the attacks aren't improving, yeah, at the very least, Quintim died 6 times during those attacks

    Also man, this Krakoa nonsense is reminding me of that chick from Young Justice's season 3, one who at times looks like she dies every episode, really dumb in her case, even worse with Krakoa since characters die too fucking much, it's like everyone is Kenny from South Park in earlier seasons, maybe the island should be called "Kenny" even .

    I'd say Jean is getting up there too, she had 15 already and then 2 more that I know of in HOX/POX.
    I only remember one death in HoX/PoX, when they invaded that Forge, did she die again during it?

    She also got killed by Wolverine in his new comic, unless that's the second death you're mentioning?

    Peter himself is at 11, Kindred himself killed him 9 times IIRC.
    I counted here and it's 9 yeah.

    Which other death did he have besides The Other? Is it Infinity Gauntlet's?

    Quote Originally Posted by HypnoHustler View Post
    Peter has died more than 2 times outside of Kindred (and I wonder if those Kindred kills were illusions/hallucinations).

    Peter had ‘The Other’ and ASM #700. He also died briefly during the Clone Saga before his powers returned. He died during a botched rescue in an early adjectiveless issue of Spider-Man (#17) and was revived by Thanos or Death. And there’s probably been a couple others I’m forgetting.
    Ah yeah, guess ASM#700 counts too, kinda lol.

    EDIT: I think he (along with most Marvel heroes) was also killed during Infinity War or Infinity Gauntlet (always get the two confused), but time was later rewinded back before his death. Not sure of the details, it’s been so many years since I read it.
    He did die there, got killed by FemThanos:

    https://i.imgur.com/qcSgVgV.png

    https://i.imgur.com/9JYZmpf.png

    (Infinity Gauntlet#4)

    And time wasn't rewinded, Medula made everything go back to how it was 24 hours before, restoring things to normal, so the deaths still happened:

    https://i.imgur.com/o4SyWBM.png

    https://i.imgur.com/X1bVlHE.png

    (IG#6)

    Quote Originally Posted by Sr. Bungle View Post
    Judging by the combination of Evil Harry AI And Mysterio I reckon that those deaths were allucinatios/Illusions
    I guess Adjectiveless Spider-Man#17 would make more sense as some hallucination, but would need to be specifically pointed out lol.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lukmendes View Post
    I guess Adjectiveless Spider-Man#17 would make more sense as some hallucination, but would need to be specifically pointed out lol.
    Thanos would have no reason to trick Peter through hallucinations, and probably doesn’t have those powers anyway. But he can bring people back to life due to his relationship with Death. Peter died for sure in that issue. I just reread it recently.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lukmendes View Post
    Kaine was a bit too violent, he said he was willing to give Ben a chance to at least save that girl, but once the girl died, he tried to kill Ben as he said he would, but it's a bit too callous, even if it's understandable considering, y'know, the whole Jackal nonsense.



    Thinking of it, wonder if someone in Krakoa broke Ben's record of number of deaths by now, also wonder if Death lost interest after Ben .



    Just remember that the ending isn't canon, since Ben becomes evil again and kills Kaine, but then Spider-Geddon has Ben being good and Kaine's still alive.

    As for the story itself, I honestly didn'yt really know Ben's character back then, and still got bored of the comic, the whole "Will Ben become good or evil?" **** was half assed.
    You make it sound Kaine more 90s than the actual 90s, does he use guns?

    Ah, man i'm gonna end reading Spider-Geddon too and i was doing such a great job in postponing it lol. But yeah it doesn't all that great, seemingly it was a good choice that i didn't followed it when it was coming out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HypnoHustler View Post
    Thanos would have no reason to trick Peter through hallucinations, and probably doesn’t have those powers anyway.
    I meant an hallucination someone else caused, to make Spidey think he was talking with Thanos and Death, not that Thanos himself needs it lol.

    But he can bring people back to life due to his relationship with Death. Peter died for sure in that issue. I just reread it recently.
    It's weird Thanos decided to bother Spidey at all, maybe it's some weird request Death had...

    Thinking of it, weird Death decided to resurrect Spidey and that girl:

    https://i.imgur.com/kN6Aj3v.png

    https://i.imgur.com/da5QyE0.png

    https://i.imgur.com/Szy3LIG.png

    (Adjectiveless Spider-Man#17)

    And In Peter David's run of Scarlet Spider, Death also resurrected Kaine and a girl Ben was trying to save when Ben requested it:

    https://i.imgur.com/VfZ3p3L.png

    https://i.imgur.com/d5P4kHc.png

    https://i.imgur.com/29F3kT5.png

    https://i.imgur.com/KHJOnXQ.png

    https://i.imgur.com/VCqkFbC.png

    https://i.imgur.com/hCzL7sk.png

    (Ben Reilly: Scarlet Spider#7)

    Granted he had to be forceful about that, but, she explicitly didn't want to kill him, since he's "special" and all but... Starting to think Death has a thing for the Spider-Parkers, hope Deadpool doesn't learn about this .

    Quote Originally Posted by TheCape View Post
    You make it sound Kaine more 90s than the actual 90s, does he use guns? :P
    Hahahahahaha





    (BR:SS#5)

    Yes he does, bet you're wishing you were wrong =D.

    At the very least, it's just this one scene.

    Ah, man i'm gonna end reading Spider-Geddon too and i was doing such a great job in postponing it lol. But yeah it doesn't all that great, seemingly it was a good choice that i didn't followed it when it was coming out.
    Spider-Geddon is kinda like a Spider-Verse without some of the bad stuff like the ridiculous amount of deaths, so instead of being "Damn this event is boring and mean spirited", it's "Damn, this event is boring".

    And I guess since it doesn't have the equivalent of introducing Spider-Gwen, or anything close to it, it's arguably less noteworthy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lukmendes View Post
    I meant an hallucination someone else caused, to make Spidey think he was talking with Thanos and Death, not that Thanos himself needs it lol.



    It's weird Thanos decided to bother Spidey at all, maybe it's some weird request Death had...

    Thinking of it, weird Death decided to resurrect Spidey and that girl:

    https://i.imgur.com/kN6Aj3v.png

    https://i.imgur.com/da5QyE0.png

    https://i.imgur.com/Szy3LIG.png

    (Adjectiveless Spider-Man#17)

    And In Peter David's run of Scarlet Spider, Death also resurrected Kaine and a girl Ben was trying to save when Ben requested it:

    https://i.imgur.com/VfZ3p3L.png

    https://i.imgur.com/d5P4kHc.png

    https://i.imgur.com/29F3kT5.png

    https://i.imgur.com/KHJOnXQ.png

    https://i.imgur.com/VCqkFbC.png

    https://i.imgur.com/hCzL7sk.png

    (Ben Reilly: Scarlet Spider#7)

    Granted he had to be forceful about that, but, she explicitly didn't want to kill him, since he's "special" and all but... Starting to think Death has a thing for the Spider-Parkers, hope Deadpool doesn't learn about this .



    Hahahahahaha





    (BR:SS#5)

    Yes he does, bet you're wishing you were wrong =D.

    At the very least, it's just this one scene.



    Spider-Geddon is kinda like a Spider-Verse without some of the bad stuff like the ridiculous amount of deaths, so instead of being "Damn this event is boring and mean spirited", it's "Damn, this event is boring".

    And I guess since it doesn't have the equivalent of introducing Spider-Gwen, or anything close to it, it's arguably less noteworthy.
    Spider-Man life is Death favorite soap opera, she just wanted to make sure that the spin off kept going.

    Lol, best part of that is Ben guilt tripping Kaine with Uncle Ben, can't believe that this was actually a thing thought, is this what you feel when your jokes become reality?

    Oh, well at least doesn't sound like it would too painfull to read, i'm not touching the tie-ins thought, Spider-Girls and Peter vs Morlun round 4 were enought.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheCape View Post
    Spider-Man life is Death favorite soap opera, she just wanted to make sure that the spin off kept going.
    Well, I guess like a bad soap opera, she's okay with a Deus Ex Machina, specially if she gets to be the Deus Ex Machina, and she's basically that with the scene where she explains what's up with Ben's souls and when she decides to kill and resurrect Kaine, and also resurrect that girl lol.

    Lol, best part of that is Ben guilt tripping Kaine with Uncle Ben,
    It's a Parker's one weakness after all, Ben tried to do that with Peter back in Clone Conspiracy, but then Peter turned that back on Ben .

    can't believe that this was actually a thing thought, is this what you feel when your jokes become reality?
    Yes.

    It gets better, but only after a while, in my experience, the more it happened, the more I was thinking "No fucking way", then after that happened enough times it became a weird mix of minor annoyance at it happening, but it also being kinda funny.

    Oh, well at least doesn't sound like it would too painfull to read, i'm not touching the tie-ins thought, Spider-Girls and Peter vs Morlun round 4 were enought.
    Peter vs Morlun is probably the best tie-in, and it's more so because it's so disconnected with the rest of Spider-Geddon, and a self contained fight lol.

    But yeah, Spider-Geddon just wasn't anything special, kinda like Byrne's ASM at times, in which the biggest problem was it being boring, at least for me.

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