Spitting, like death is one of the most basic fundamentals and happens in almost every medium and mostly to side characters(for obv. reasons).And are you telling me that villains as sick as deranged as they are won't target a hero's family/friends?
and I agree it's only/mostly comics, if Michelle dies in NWH it's not fridging.I can't believe that MCU stans are better at handling death than comic book fans(I like MCU btw, but don't stan it)
Yeah Claremont would not survive a month today.Yeah TLOU2 is another male fridging, although it's done to a main character for the other main character(Joel and Ellie are the main ones IMO).
I understand not liking a trope/style of writing/etc. but let's calm down on the cancelling.People forget how many good stories involve fridging.
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Is it really fridging when death has little meaning in this era? Yeah he killed off Jean in Wolverine, but guess what? She was back the next day. Who cares?
Is it really X-Men if C-list characters aren't getting murked? The biggest recent offense imo is Rockslide I feel the character was done dirty.
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Little Illyana's death from the Legacy Virus would count as fridging. She was absent from the books for 3 years and brought back only so she could be killed off to make other characters sad. She was treated as a prop rather than a character in her own right during this period, to the point where Xavier states he should have been more worried about Colossus than about the 7-year-old kid with the fatal disease. She's written as a paragon of innocence rather than a character, and the purpose of the story was to fulfill an editorial edict from Bob Harras to get rid of magical elements from the X-books and so her character arc was deliberately ignored and left unfulfilled. It can be argued that the story was better than the average fridging, but a fridging it was.
Often it's lazy and misogynic but not allways. Alex in GL was not a good move. More shockvalue then anything else.
On the other hand you have characters like Uncle Ben in Spider-man. Also a character introduced to die as a motivation for another character. A death that is essential to Spider-man. Another death like Gwen is harder to judge.
Death in fiction as a motivator is and will be continous thing. It can be a seperate thing from misogyny but it's often hasn't. On the other hand comics is young medium and it spent decades wrestling with problems like misogyny. Perhaps more due to a reflection of the times, perhaps not.
There is no such thing as male fridging, really. Or rather, it is is not actually a pervasive or frequent problem. It is that pervasiveness that caused Gail Simome to generate the term.
But violence against women is a big problem in real life, not just media.
Last edited by Kitty&Piotr<3; 10-16-2021 at 11:49 AM.
This may be the most valid fridging example we've seen in this thread.
Bruh so Ben was good but Gwen was hard to judge?
Gwen's entire arc related to her loving Peter and hating Spider-man for killing her dad but being unaware that they were the same person, and more than Peter Gwen's death was a catalyst for MJ.MJ grew from her death far more than Peter did, although it had/has a lasting impact on both .When she died she heard that Peter was Spider-man and died feeling betrayed, she came back to life and then talked w/ Peter and since the process used in her ressurection wasn't stable went out buying time so others can be saved.
Because female side characters or more importantly love interests are more common than male ones.I agree it happens to women more(because of said reason) and I'm glad it's being worked on.
Men suffer from homlessness and have a much higher suicide rate than women, so should we only focus on Men in those scenarios?Also I've already shown multiple A and some B lister in comics who were r*ped and it's never addressed, much more than women in comics btw.
And we're talking about women who are either superheros and partake in said (illegal)violence or are targets because of their affiliations w/ such people.There's a lot bigger reasons to the death's of someone like Kayla and Gwen and even May in the ps4 game than them being women.
Last edited by Spiderfan001; 10-16-2021 at 02:24 PM.
If anyone has played the No More Heroes games. Bishop is a very deliberate fridging that seems to be making fun of the trope. Travis' whole motivation is avenging this minor character who he had no interaction with in either game and it's supposed to seem ridiculous to the player that the big bad would target Bishop or that Travis would get so emotional about it.