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    Hippo deserves to be mentioned I think.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Huntsman Spider View Post
    Carolyn working for Alchemax in the present and establishing the virtual reality technology that gets mainstreamed by the year 2099 would be a pretty good idea, too. As for her father Seward's mind still existing on some floppy disks somewhere, that does remind me of how Arnim Zola digitized himself in Captain America: The Winter Soldier.
    Mmmm yes, IIRC it's how Carolyn saved Otto, making a copy of his mind on a disk.
    Quote Originally Posted by TheRay View Post
    Hippo deserves to be mentioned I think.
    Well, feel free to explain why.

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    Quote Originally Posted by marhawkman View Post
    Mmmm yes, IIRC it's how Carolyn saved Otto, making a copy of his mind on a disk.
    Well, feel free to explain why.
    And thus, Otto Octavius's first resurrection . . .
    The spider is always on the hunt.

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    Honestly like Batman, Spider-Man's got quite a lot of underrated villains. From Silvermane to Alistair Smythe to Carrion. If you want to go more obscurer than that, the Looter is a prime candidate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by marhawkman View Post
    Well, feel free to explain why.
    Well, if it needs an explanation isn't that the best explanation of all?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nero View Post
    Honestly like Batman, Spider-Man's got quite a lot of underrated villains. From Silvermane to Alistair Smythe to Carrion. If you want to go more obscurer than that, the Looter is a prime candidate.
    That's all true.
    The spider is always on the hunt.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheRay View Post
    Well, if it needs an explanation isn't that the best explanation of all?
    well, no. :P Underrated implies the character is obscure AND a good character concept. So far all we have is obscure.

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    Does Peter Parker and Spider man themselves count? I do wonder how much of Peter problems are self inflicted.
    "He's pure power and doesn't even know it. He's the best of us."-Matt Murdock

    "I need a reason to take the mask off."-Peter Parker

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jman27 View Post
    Does Peter Parker and Spider man themselves count? I do wonder how much of Peter problems are self inflicted.
    In some people's conceptions, yeah. Even Nick Spencer made a case somewhat, albeit through J. Jonah Jameson and Kindred, that Peter was more responsible for his own misfortunes --- and the misfortunes inflicted on those around him --- than he cared to acknowledge or admit. In Jameson's case, he made the point that Peter's compulsive secrecy, self-isolation, and even antagonistic behavior toward Jameson himself as Spider-Man contributed to his alter ego's bad publicity. In Kindred's case, he argued that if Peter had come clean sooner about Norman Osborn's alter ego the Green Goblin, even at the risk of his own secret identity, so much of the misery Osborn would go on to inflict, both on Peter and others, would have been averted.
    The spider is always on the hunt.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Huntsman Spider View Post
    In some people's conceptions, yeah. Even Nick Spencer made a case somewhat, albeit through J. Jonah Jameson and Kindred, that Peter was more responsible for his own misfortunes --- and the misfortunes inflicted on those around him --- than he cared to acknowledge or admit. In Jameson's case, he made the point that Peter's compulsive secrecy, self-isolation, and even antagonistic behavior toward Jameson himself as Spider-Man contributed to his alter ego's bad publicity. In Kindred's case, he argued that if Peter had come clean sooner about Norman Osborn's alter ego the Green Goblin, even at the risk of his own secret identity, so much of the misery Osborn would go on to inflict, both on Peter and others, would have been averted.
    Yeah, one of the more interesting discussions(in-universe) is that RW laws make some kinds of evidence inadmissible in court simply because the identity of the person who found it isn't known. More so if the individual doesn't have chain of custody documentation for the item in question. So if Spiderman has "proof"... he'd have to figure out a way to get the police to find it on their own. If he steals stuff from Osborn to give to the police, that stuff isn't admissible in court.

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    Quote Originally Posted by marhawkman View Post
    Yeah, one of the more interesting discussions(in-universe) is that RW laws make some kinds of evidence inadmissible in court simply because the identity of the person who found it isn't known. More so if the individual doesn't have chain of custody documentation for the item in question. So if Spiderman has "proof"... he'd have to figure out a way to get the police to find it on their own. If he steals stuff from Osborn to give to the police, that stuff isn't admissible in court.
    Life Story's first issue handled it by having Peter anonymously drop a dime on Osborn to the police, giving them tips on how and where to find his stash of Goblin weaponry and equipment, which got Osborn locked up for years or decades in that universe, not that he didn't find ways to make Peter suffer even while in prison.
    The spider is always on the hunt.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Huntsman Spider View Post
    Life Story's first issue handled it by having Peter anonymously drop a dime on Osborn to the police, giving them tips on how and where to find his stash of Goblin weaponry and equipment, which got Osborn locked up for years or decades in that universe, not that he didn't find ways to make Peter suffer even while in prison.
    Yeah, that's a great example.

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    Quote Originally Posted by marhawkman View Post
    Yeah, that's a great example.
    Thank you.
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    When the Rose was alive, he was under-rated. Richard Fisk could be a better crime boss than his father.

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    Quote Originally Posted by marhawkman View Post
    well, no. :P Underrated implies the character is obscure AND a good character concept. So far all we have is obscure.
    No....underrated implies something that doesn't get the recognition that it deserves. It doesn't have to be obscure at all. There are people that would claim The Boys and Y The Last Man are underrated, but they're not obscure.

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