Is "X-Men Origins: Wolverine" (2009) canon?

[Mutant 77]

Tell me.

To me, it belongs to the original timeline.

I think that the movie is a good and fun popcorn superhero flick, they just should redo the digital claws sequence in the Hudson family's bathroom.

I don't see anything wrong with it, quite frankly.

Emma Silverfox and Wade/Weapon XI are just reinterpretations. Weapon XI was scary and frightening. Who cares about having a comic book faithful adaptation? Later, we got the two Deadpool movies and the Deadpool cinematic universe. The character is a bit overrated anyway.

In terms of continuity, Emma Silverfox, Quicksilver and Banshee could be seen as an issue, but we can suppose that they are clones created by Essex Corp/WideAwake.
So my wild guess is that Emma Silverfox is Emma Frost's clone created by William Stryker Jr. in the sixties (DOFP established that Emma Frost was captured and killed) and later adopted by Mr. Silverfox, Kayla's father. Adoptive sibling.
The teen versions of Quicksilver and Banshee are clones too, of course. The real Banshee (First Class) was killed by Stryker in the sixties, while the real Quicksilver (DOFP) could have been killed by Team X down the line too, and that would explain why 2023 Wolverine knew about him and knew about his home address.
Thus, basically, we can imagine that Xavier recruited Emma Silverfox, Quicksilver II and Banshee II as X-Men, and they belonged to the second generation (along with Beast), operating many years before the first movie. Beast, Emma, Quicksilver and Banshee departed some time before, leaving Cyclops, Storm and Jean alone.
I don't think that they are "mutants with similar powers". Ironically speaking, and that's truly cool if you ask me, Stryker's secret files in X2 list two "Cassidys" and two "Maximoffs", without specifically mentioning their birthnames. Retroactive continuity, we can assume that the computer files referred to the clones.



The movie is set in 1983. 15 years before "X-Men" (1999). Cyclops is 18 years old, exactly like he was in "X-Men: Apocalypse".

[Dark Soul # 7]

Who cares about having a comic book faithful adaptation?

A lot of people care about that. It's one of the main reasons why this version of Wade was massively panned, it just strayed way too much from the character.

And the movie is canon to the degree that anything in the Fox movies is canon after all the time-jumping and whatnot. Doesn't mean it's good.

[Mutant 77]

A lot of people care about that. It's one of the main reasons why this version of Wade was massively panned, it just strayed way too much from the character.

Yes, but since we got the real Deadpool later, there's nothing wrong with Weapon XI, it was scary and cool.

[the illustrious mr. kenway]

I enjoyed the movie and I agree about it being canon before days of future past. I could see some version of it happening post Days of Future Past. Same event/different outcome etc. Which allows you to change up the roster and iron out the kinks.

Emma Silverton could just be a different character than Emma Frost. And Quicksilver/Banshee could just be Easter eggs. They are unnamed new mutants.

If anything you could keep Weapon 11 and make him a different character. Bonus points if you use an existing Deadpool villian like T-Ray.

[Jokerz79]

Imo opinion everything before Wolverine left Stryker after the African raid is canon with the new timeline created by Days of Future Past.

When Logan left Stryker and went off and eventually met Silverfox and had a life as a logger it was stated when Stryker and Zero came to see him 6 years had past since him leaving. The end battle took place at 3 mile island and was meant to be the X-Men film universe version of the 3 Mile Island Incident which was 1979 meaning Wolverine left Stryker in 1973.

Days of Future Past took place in 1973.

So again just my opinion everything we see in the 1st arc of the film Wolverine X-Men Origins took place and Jimmy left Stryker in 1973 afterwards he went to NYC and got involved with the mob and started banging that one mob guys daughter. Original Timeline he would had eventually made his way to Canada and met Silverfox but due to his future self taking over his body we got DOFP and it rewrote his timeline and he was taken by Weapon-X either in 1973 by Mystique or a later date but was still their prisoner in 1983 in the new timeline vs escaping in 1979 during the adamantium process.

[Mutant 77]

Imo opinion everything before Wolverine left Stryker after the African raid is canon with the new timeline created by Days of Future Past.

When Logan left Stryker and went off and eventually met Silverfox and had a life as a logger it was stated when Stryker and Zero came to see him 6 years had past since him leaving. The end battle took place at 3 mile island and was meant to be the X-Men film universe version of the 3 Mile Island Incident which was 1979 meaning Wolverine left Stryker in 1973.

Days of Future Past took place in 1973.

So again just my opinion everything we see in the 1st arc of the film Wolverine X-Men Origins took place and Jimmy left Stryker in 1973 afterwards he went to NYC and got involved with the mob and started banging that one mob guys daughter. Original Timeline he would had eventually made his way to Canada and met Silverfox but due to his future self taking over his body we got DOFP and it rewrote his timeline and he was taken by Weapon-X either in 1973 by Mystique or a later date but was still their prisoner in 1983 in the new timeline vs escaping in 1979 during the adamantium process.

No, (young) Stryker did not know Logan in DOFP. The mob involvement occurred in very early 1973, before Logan would embark on a new war tour in Vietnam.

As simple as that, Mystique freed Logan from Stryker's rescue team and the Project WideAwake at the end of DOFP. Logan lived his life (despite the big hole in his memory about the events of 1973), but was captured again in late 1982 or so.
And here we go: "X-Men: Apocalypse". 1983.
We don't know how much time Mystique impersonated Stryker, even. Maybe months.

However, the events of "Origins" are firmly place in 1983, not 1979. In the movie, it is hinted that the infamous Three Mile Island Incident already happened years before.
Cyclops is 18 years old.

The original timeline:

1973- Stryker recruits James Logan and Victor Creed.
1977- After 4 years of missions, Logan leaves Team X in Africa.
1983- The main events of "Origins".

[Noodle]

Yes, but since we got the real Deadpool later, there's nothing wrong with Weapon XI, it was scary and cool.

Except that there was no knowledge of us getting the real Deadpool later when this movie came out. In fact, the massive backlash this version of Deadpool received is one of the primary reasons we got the real Deadpool later. You're essentially waving away something bad because something good came from it being so bad.

[Mutant 77]

Except that there was no knowledge of us getting the real Deadpool later when this movie came out. In fact, the massive backlash this version of Deadpool received is one of the primary reasons we got the real Deadpool later. You're essentially waving away something bad because something good came from it being so bad.

Weapon XI was scary and cool. I love it.
Other than that, I'm not a Deadpool fan.

[Zero Hunter]

HAHAHAHA There was never any "cannon" in the Fox movies. To try and say there was is just foolish.