The Flash (2023)

[Refrax5]

Companies don't care about morality unless it affects their bottom line. Besides, a lot of people worked on this movie, showing it isn't rewarding Ezra or anything.

I agree that we can't have a Flash 2 with Ezra, but they can just recast after this movie.

Agreed. There's no realistic way they're going to release it to streaming or shelve it. They need to make back as much money as possible and it sets up too many other movies.

It sucks that Ezra turned out to be so crazy, but there's nothing to be done about it now. They can and should recast for any sequels, but they're stuck with Ez for this movie.

[Refrax5]

Ezra is acting like a privileged *******.

In a way, yes, but this kind of behavior with violent mood swings, threatening a KKK chapter that apparently doesn't exist, the bizarre comments and social media posts and self destructive behavior definitely seems indicative of a deeper problem. A lot of actors are privileged assholes, but they know to keep a lid on it for the sake of their career. Everything I've heard about Ezra makes them sound delusional and unstable to a profound degree.

[choptop]

Companies don't care about morality unless it affects their bottom line. Besides, a lot of people worked on this movie, showing it isn't rewarding Ezra or anything.

I agree that we can't have a Flash 2 with Ezra, but they can just recast after this movie.

No but it may be best for the future of DC.

[Vakanai]

No but it may be best for the future of DC.

The best future for DC is pray future movies are better and no more actors go off the deep end. Shelving this movie doesn't have anything to do with that, except that the more money this makes the more it helps them fund other movies, and the less it makes the less they have to spend on other movies.

[Maestro 216]

Sounds like the next projects are trying to fix the damage done by early DCEU.

[Immortal Weapon]

Sounds like the next projects are trying to fix the damage done by early DCEU.

Trying to fix things will just lead to more damage. Decades worth of Crisis events taught me that. It should be avoided in their movies

[Jim Kelly]

People keep hanging onto this idea that there's something they call "DCEU"--when that's never been an official label and the only two movies that really connect directly to each other are BATMAN V SUPERMAN: DAWN OF JUSTICE and JUSTICE LEAGUE--and even JUSTICE LEAGUE went through reshoots that completely changed the story set up by the prior movie. MAN OF STEEL was made before they had decided to make a connected universe of movies. And all the other movies have only been somewhat connected to what was established in BATMAN V SUPERMAN. While still other movies have come out that had no connection with that. Even JUSTICE LEAGUE has an alternate version called ZACK SNYDER'S JUSTICE LEAGUE which varies widely from the theatrical release and has twice as much content. When THE FLASH comes out, if it comes out, it will probably be yet another variant--and it's supposed to alter continuity so much that it might as well be in another universe.

[Jack The Tripper]

People keep hanging onto this idea that there's something they call "DCEU"--when that's never been an official label and the only two movies that really connect directly to each other are BATMAN V SUPERMAN: DAWN OF JUSTICE and JUSTICE LEAGUE--and even JUSTICE LEAGUE went through reshoots that completely changed the story set up by the prior movie. MAN OF STEEL was made before they had decided to make a connected universe of movies. And all the other movies have only been somewhat connected to what was established in BATMAN V SUPERMAN. While still other movies have come out that had no connection with that. Even JUSTICE LEAGUE has an alternate version called ZACK SNYDER'S JUSTICE LEAGUE which varies widely from the theatrical release and has twice as much content. When THE FLASH comes out, if it comes out, it will probably be yet another variant--and it's supposed to alter continuity so much that it might as well be in another universe.

If rumours turn out to be true, this movie is supposed to make the mainline DC films more consistent as a universe. Obviously DC have been quite good at keeping properties fairly separate, and they don’t have an official name for the universe, but the non-Batman/Joker movies are meant to be connected, even if not explicitly stated. The last episode of Peacemaker is a good example. Shazam is another.

[Jim Kelly]

If rumours turn out to be true, this movie is supposed to make the mainline DC films more consistent as a universe. Obviously DC have been quite good at keeping properties fairly separate, and they don’t have an official name for the universe, but the non-Batman/Joker movies are meant to be connected, even if not explicitly stated. The last episode of Peacemaker is a good example. Shazam is another.

There have been bits of connection. But every movie also seems to have bits of disconnection. SHAZAM! tried to connect, but then they couldn't get Henry Cavill. PEACEMAKER has Jason Momoa and Ezra Miller but not Henry Cavill and Gal Gadot. I think there were a few tweaks in the continuity between SUICIDE SQUAD and THE SUICIDE SQUAD. The continuity changes slightly between WONDER WOMAN and WONDER WOMAN 1984. With the exception of JUSTICE LEAGUE, there hasn't been a developing subplot in the movies like in the Marvel movies.

Even when they try to do stuff to connect the movies they seem to come up against road blocks that prevent them from creating a comprehensive universe. Which might be all to the good. Maybe Warner is just not made for that kind of cinematic empire and they're better at doing self-contained movies.

[choptop]

People keep hanging onto this idea that there's something they call "DCEU"--when that's never been an official label and the only two movies that really connect directly to each other are BATMAN V SUPERMAN: DAWN OF JUSTICE and JUSTICE LEAGUE--and even JUSTICE LEAGUE went through reshoots that completely changed the story set up by the prior movie. MAN OF STEEL was made before they had decided to make a connected universe of movies. And all the other movies have only been somewhat connected to what was established in BATMAN V SUPERMAN. While still other movies have come out that had no connection with that. Even JUSTICE LEAGUE has an alternate version called ZACK SNYDER'S JUSTICE LEAGUE which varies widely from the theatrical release and has twice as much content. When THE FLASH comes out, if it comes out, it will probably be yet another variant--and it's supposed to alter continuity so much that it might as well be in another universe.

Not really the DCEU is like 9 movies in or something I mean it's not like the MCU but it is in the same universe as of now...

[AnakinFlair]

People keep hanging onto this idea that there's something they call "DCEU"--when that's never been an official label and the only two movies that really connect directly to each other are BATMAN V SUPERMAN: DAWN OF JUSTICE and JUSTICE LEAGUE--and even JUSTICE LEAGUE went through reshoots that completely changed the story set up by the prior movie. MAN OF STEEL was made before they had decided to make a connected universe of movies. And all the other movies have only been somewhat connected to what was established in BATMAN V SUPERMAN. While still other movies have come out that had no connection with that. Even JUSTICE LEAGUE has an alternate version called ZACK SNYDER'S JUSTICE LEAGUE which varies widely from the theatrical release and has twice as much content. When THE FLASH comes out, if it comes out, it will probably be yet another variant--and it's supposed to alter continuity so much that it might as well be in another universe.

That's not actually true. Green Lantern was supposed to be the movie that kicked off a shared DC movie universe, but it bombed. So Man of Steel became the movie that was to kick off the shared universe instead. And it did- Man of Steel connects directly to Batman v Superman, which connected to Wonder Woman, which connected to Justice League and Aquaman. But things famously fell apart with Justice League, and so WB decided to nix the shared universe and just focus on making movie that could be good first. Now, that might have changed with the new regime, but I guess we won't really know until the next slate of films (Black Adam, Aquaman II and The Flash) come out.

[Vakanai]

That's not actually true. Green Lantern was supposed to be the movie that kicked off a shared DC movie universe, but it bombed. So Man of Steel became the movie that was to kick off the shared universe instead. And it did- Man of Steel connects directly to Batman v Superman, which connected to Wonder Woman, which connected to Justice League and Aquaman. But things famously fell apart with Justice League, and so WB decided to nix the shared universe and just focus on making movie that could be good first. Now, that might have changed with the new regime, but I guess we won't really know until the next slate of films (Black Adam, Aquaman II and The Flash) come out.

Not really. Those films were greenlit and largely filmed before the new regime. It's the films that come after those 4 (don't forget Shazam 2) that will reflect the new change of plan/s.

Edit: 5, forgot Batgirl. Blue Beetle kinda on the fence, there's maybe time for it to reflect some of the new regime's changes, but it's already filming so maybe not. 6 then. Everything after is all new regime.

[Gaastra]

WB just going to release it as is in theatres like death on the nile it get it over with next year. Bet marketing will focus on the two batmans and supergirl more than flash.

[Vakanai]

WB just going to release it as is in theatres like death on the nile it get it over with next year. Bet marketing will focus on the two batmans and supergirl more than flash.

This was the best and only option for this bad situation.

[Styles]

THE FLASH: WB Said To Be "Still Contending" With What To Do With The Movie Following Ezra Miller Allegations

Despite a recent update claiming that WB was still committed to releasing The Flash, Variety's report on the Batgirl story mentions that the studio "is still contending with what to do about The Flash,” which has been "utterly hamstrung by repeated allegations of abuse and misconduct by its star, Ezra Miller."