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    Quote Originally Posted by LoganAlpha30X33 View Post
    Maybe they could add something at the end where a reality altering villain or something changes reality, or just meld two different realities Flash's together to get a new actor and go forward from there...
    Or they could not do that and just recast the role after

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gaastra View Post
    Kind of hard to shuffle off to streaming a film that cost millions, setting up keatons return as batman and a supergirl film and confirmed to have ties to future theatre dc releases.
    Keaton's coming back again in Batgirl. I think that WB is fast tracking Supergirl for a new project, though I can't remember if it's a movie or a series on HBO Max.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vakanai View Post
    Or they could not do that and just recast the role after
    Yeah, I have to agree. No need to waste even more money, and frankly most general audience member aren’t going to care about the recast since I don’t think they care for his Flash one way or another. So it’s a easy replacement.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vakanai View Post
    Or they could not do that and just recast the role after
    The worst things about "Batman Begins" and "Casino Royale" were that they led studios to believe that a recasting requires a reboot (when in both cases the reboot was necessitated more by the need to wipe the storylines clean). Prior to that, studios trusted audiences to accept a new actor in a role as long as it was well cast.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mark Trail View Post
    The worst things about "Batman Begins" and "Casino Royale" were that they led studios to believe that a recasting requires a reboot (when in both cases the reboot was necessitated more by the need to wipe the storylines clean). Prior to that, studios trusted audiences to accept a new actor in a role as long as it was well cast.
    Well, Begins was always meant to be a new take on Batman. They weren't going to pull the James Bond of the Keaton/Kilmer/Clooney era.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Frontier View Post
    Well, Begins was always meant to be a new take on Batman. They weren't going to pull the James Bond of the Keaton/Kilmer/Clooney era.
    Yeah, I was trying to acknowledge that BB was a justified reboot but that too many studios seemed to take from it (and CR) the wrong lesson, namely, that reboots were required whenever there was a recast.

    For example, there was absolutely no reason Andrew Garfield couldn't have starred in "Spider-man 4" and done a fine job without rebooting that series and, in fact, the rebooting unfairly (IMO) led audiences to reject him as Spidey. All the studio really needed to do there was acknowledge the mistakes of three and perform better.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mark Trail View Post
    Yeah, I was trying to acknowledge that BB was a justified reboot but that too many studios seemed to take from it (and CR) the wrong lesson, namely, that reboots were required whenever there was a recast.

    For example, there was absolutely no reason Andrew Garfield couldn't have starred in "Spider-man 4" and done a fine job without rebooting that series and, in fact, the rebooting unfairly (IMO) led audiences to reject him as Spidey. All the studio really needed to do there was acknowledge the mistakes of three and perform better.
    Hmm...I dunno. Garfield's Spidey turned out so different from Maguire and had a completely different story that I don't think you could have accomplished that without a straight reboot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Frontier View Post
    Hmm...I dunno. Garfield's Spidey turned out so different from Maguire and had a completely different story that I don't think you could have accomplished that without a straight reboot.
    That's my point. They didn't require a completely different story. Raimi had been setting up Dr. Connors and the Lizard since the first film.

    As for Garfield turning in a different type of Spidey than Maguire, a lot of that was in the script and direction (which IMO did not serve Garfield well at all).

    It was just a completely unnecessary reboot all around.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mark Trail View Post
    That's my point. They didn't require a completely different story. Raimi had been setting up Dr. Connors and the Lizard since the first film.

    As for Garfield turning in a different type of Spidey than Maguire, a lot of that was in the script and direction (which IMO did not serve Garfield well at all).

    It was just a completely unnecessary reboot all around.
    I don't really think I can see Garfield playing the same type of Spider-Man Tobey did. In fact one of what endeared him to people was that his Spider-Man wasn't Tobey's, for better or worse.

    I'm not saying we needed a reboot but I understand why they did it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Frontier View Post
    I don't really think I can see Garfield playing the same type of Spider-Man Tobey did. In fact one of what endeared him to people was that his Spider-Man wasn't Tobey's, for better or worse.

    I'm not saying we needed a reboot but I understand why they did it.
    I think Garfield replacing Maguire could have been like Moore replacing Connery. Sure, it was a different guy with a different approach but it was still faithful to the character and if the story was good enough the audience would have (and in the case of Bond did) accept(ed) it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mark Trail View Post
    I think Garfield replacing Maguire could have been like Moore replacing Connery. Sure, it was a different guy with a different approach but it was still faithful to the character and if the story was good enough the audience would have (and in the case of Bond did) accept(ed) it.
    Yeah, but there would probably have been more of an expectation of having to carry over cast and some story from the past than I think Sony was interested in doing.

    Although Garfield would have probably benefited from keeping JK Simmons.

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    Ezra miller may have just been found! On a farm with a mom and three kids and tons of loaded guns laying everywhere, unsafe for kids and a unlicensed Cannabis farm.

    https://www.rollingstone.com/movies/...-farm-1372295/

    Two sources with knowledge of the situation expressed concern to Rolling Stone that it is an unsafe environment for children, alleging there are unattended guns strewn around the home on Miller’s 96-acre property. One source, who, like the other, requested anonymity for fear of retribution, recalled an instance where one of the children — a one-year-old — allegedly picked up a loose bullet and put it in her mouth.

    The mother and children, aged one to five, have, at least as recently as June according to local sources, been living at Miller’s Stamford, Vermont, farm since mid-April. The actor met the woman in Hilo, Hawaii, which Miller had been visiting in March. The embattled actor, who is set to star in Warner Bros.’ anticipated The Flash, racked up a string of arrests while in Hawaii, causing an emergency meeting with studio executives about their future with the franchise. (Miller is nonbinary and uses they/them pronouns.)

    In the midst of that unfolding crisis, the children’s father claims to Rolling Stone that Miller secured a flight out of Hawaii for the woman and her children, allegedly without the father’s knowledge. He claims he has not been able to see or speak with his children since their departure. (Rolling Stone is withholding the names of the mother and father.)

    “I am going through hell and back,” the father says. “I got a bad feeling in my stomach … I do want to go get my kids, they mean the ---- world to me.”

    Representatives for Miller did not reply to request for comment.

    The mother appears to still be living at Miller’s farm, according to pictures posted to her Instagram account as recently as Monday. The mother did not reply to Rolling Stone‘s request for clarification.

    The two sources confirmed seeing children there with their mother, describing a chaotic environment that is unsafe for children.



    Video footage from April reviewed by Rolling Stone shows at least eight assault weapons, rifles, and handguns lying around the living room, with some weapons propped up next to a pile of stuffed animals.

    Asked why he hasn’t gone to the farm with police or confronted Miller directly, the father says, “I don’t want [the children] to see anything like that. I just want them to see that, ‘Hey [Dad] showed up, let’s get in the car and go.’ It’s been traumatic enough.”

    The two sources also alleged that there has been frequent and heavy marijuana use in front of the children, with little concern about proper ventilation. Rolling Stone has also learned that there is a sizable cannabis farm on Miller’s property, with Miller’s close friend and purported “handyman” Whitney Suters claiming on social media that the two were running a cannabis company called Rebel Alliance Cannabis.

    Numerous photos posted to Suters’ social media pages indicate there is a far greater number of marijuana plants than Vermont’s permitted two mature plants or four immature plants that private citizens can own. Suters told one Facebook friend there were at least 28 different strains growing for a fall 2021 harvest.

    Miller’s farm is not among the state’s 25 licensed cultivators that are allowed to grow more than six plants and sell to wholesalers, Rolling Stone confirmed with Vermont’s Cannabis Control Board.

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    Holy shit this keeps getting worse.

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    Keep in mind this has not been posted by big sites like deadline and hr yet so take the story as you will till they post it.

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