God no that’s DCEU Superman. Jon’s a minor firecracker compared to that raging inferno
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I haven't really clicked with his teen/adult stories yet. I thought he was a fun kid in Supersons but I didn't keep up with it. He's fun in the CW show but he needs more to do.
Teen Jon suffers from a bad first impression. His detractors might've preffered a YJ-style timeskip. It also would've aged up the other teen heroes which I see as a benefit.
So in general Jon is a fun side character but I'm not that into his solo stuff yet.
Liked the character, despite the ageism, despise the wokeism for the character. Being honest. Glad DC and I are parting ways soon..
Comics wise? Trying to make teen Jon Superman is the most divisive thing in the brand. Teen Jon in of itself was not well received, but this latest move even more so.
If we're counting all mediums though, then its Snyderverse Superman like Vordan already said.
"They can be a great people Kal-El, they wish to be. They only lack the light to show the way. For this reason above all, their capacity for good, I have sent them you. My only son." - Jor-El
My feelings exactly. It seems they are (finally) moving away from Bland Teen Jon being a carbon copy of his dad which is good (the bisexuality, the protesting, etc.). The more they differentiate Jon from Clark the better, IMO. If they keep this up say for another six months I might *gasp* buy Jon's book.
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I think Jon works better as a kid. Viewing Superman through a child's eyes, going on zany adventures with Robin, etc.
I feel like Conner Kent could be doing a lot of what teen Jon Kent is doing right now. Now we have two redundant Superboys.
First he was born, then he was co-star, then he's aged up, then he's Superman, then he comes out.
Yeah. Def.
I know it's Teen Jon, but the whole Jon itself is divisive.
Far and away the most controversial Superman is the Injustice Superman by a country mile.
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Jon's "divisiveness" is primarily rooted in the very simple fact that Superman as a concept has become so stuck in its ways as far as the general public, fans, and suits go.
Jon is an idea that challenges the "perpetual now" of Superman by just existing. First it was "hey, what about the triangle for two?" Nope. In order for Jon to exist Lois obviously has to know who Clark is. And by proxy that means Superman must be married to Lois. Then it's "well, Superman can never have a kid." Nope. He's right there. But then came the interesting part because that's when the "perpetual now" tried to reassert itself. Jon could exist-- heck, even be Superboy...but he'd do it over there, and anything else would be in service of Clark as a dad.
Now with him as the new Superman, bi, and more proactive than his father we start to realize what the point was: to move the Superman brand forward past what was "allowed" or expected. People say you could do all of this with Conner but you really couldn't. You can ignore Conner or flat out erase him. Conner is no different than Kenan Kong in that regard. But Jon isn't a character the Superman franchise can ignore, and now it'll be a **** storm if he's ever not Superman again especially after the headlines and even PKJ himself going on an interview and proudly stating "this isn't freakin Geo Force coming out as bi-- this is SUPERMAN".
The divisiveness comes from how far past the comforts of the "perpetual now" (be it the easily ignored cute kid era or the classic era) being challenged with something new. No matter how it's spun I think it all comes from that.
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Trying to pin the shedding readership on one specific thing is pretty foolish considering there's also the price point, distribution model, rate of delivery for content versus other mediums and a glut of other content to compete with. Anecdotal evidence, but I also know a few prospective fans who got chased out of the industry because the old fans drove them out with rampant hostility, gatekeeping and homophobia/racism permeating a lot of discussion trying to pin every failure on some mix of a character being non-white or queer.
So yeah, I doubt Superman's three decades of declining sales have everything to do with the kid he had five years ago.