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    Kaiju randomly appearing out of nowhere in Krakoa"

    They are doing the old stupid shtick: "Wanda-does-weird-shit-when-she-goes-craaaazy"

    Pay attention to when they start appearing: They start showing up when Wanda is starting to get scared and confused about their questions about her.

    They are not randon ( inasmuch as her power is in fact to do randon shit) and certainly not out of nowhere, specially when you take into account that the kaijus are actually speaking. Magical language, sure, but speaking nevertheless.
    This is so random, why would there is kaiju attack all of the sudden, hello. We are focusing on between Maximoff family drama here


    I got some answers, But I still left with more questions. Like are the kaiju after Wanda's body, If Wanda killed Wanda was it her choice or did old Wanda tell her to do it and Finally since Wanda states that she can sense her memories going away (being transferred to resurrected Wanda) does that mean during resurrections mutant souls are retuned 100% or do they miss a few
    There is her brother and her son's and the krakoans decide that hte ones responsible for Wandas corpse should be the avengers? yep nothing odd in that
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kingdom X View Post
    Quick question I’ve been spending way too much time thinking about. Doesn’t Cerebro still pick up the memories of individuals who have lost their X-gene due to the Scarlet Witch’s power? If that’s the case, wouldn’t Cerebro still have been picking up Wanda and Pietro’s backups even if she did reality warp their mutanthood away at some point?
    i mean it should still pick up memories for both but based on this issue wandas memories stopped being recorded back before the west coast avengers story darker than scarlet and that was in the late 80s, way before it would make sense to stop recording. maybe a plot point for later

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    Quote Originally Posted by carmoc1234 View Post
    i mean it should still pick up memories for both but based on this issue wandas memories stopped being recorded back before the west coast avengers story darker than scarlet and that was in the late 80s, way before it would make sense to stop recording. maybe a plot point for later
    Kinda makes you wonder if Xavier had just started deleting Wanda and Pietro’s backup at some point and just never got around to finishing because it’s definitely a huge plot hole how the backup stops there when they were thought to be mutants for years beyond that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Journey View Post
    Yeah sis died screaming for help in the middle of Space after crying in an escape pod while everyone else was semi useful, Jesus would never.
    LMAO you're not wrong

    Quote Originally Posted by Mercury View Post
    She is the fulcrum upon which Krakoa and mutants as a whole spin.



    You will kneel and you will respect the daughter of the One Above All.

    Funnily enough the Hulk was shown to be the "son" of TOAA recently in IM50
    And TOAA came to Peter as well here -> https://imgur.com/gallery/kLryc
    And Master Order and Lord Chaos claimed responsibility for making Peter Parker become Spider-Man so that he could play a key role in the final battle between Adam Warlock and Thanos over the Soul Gems.

    So that's the best you can hope for, that some actual god like figure had something to do w/ Jean

    Quote Originally Posted by numberthirty View Post
    Who got caught slipping in at least three instances that folks came up with pretty easily...

    Again, don't add up.

    There is a long ways between being an anomaly and being omniscient/omnipotent.

    Far as we have on the page?

    She has a long ways to go.

    (Well, that or she is taking the cake for being the most incompetent omniscient/omnipotent being in fictional history...)
    Yeah she can be a key sort of character in this at best, if she is omnipotent then she's doing terrible job at it.

    Quote Originally Posted by Tank View Post
    Jean along with Rachel and various other characters in this issue were used as plot devices to further this nonsensical and messy story. Wanda regained her memories, no matter how little sense it actually made. Just like how in issue 2 it made no sense for the xmen to walk to the resurrection pods if they didnt want to show the Avengers. And then we got a joke about Emma’s assets while they pick up a teammate’s dead body! Or how in issue 1 Magneto doesnt even try to explain or talk. Trope of characters not talking to push a drama thst wouldnt happen if they just communicated is just bad writing. This miniseries is just stupid on top of stupid.

    Also Jean’s not omniscient or whatever, can we please stop this nonsense. This coming from a Jean fan. It’s jusy getting annoying now.
    Yeah Leah's writing is not good proof of anything, just bad writing.

    Quote Originally Posted by numberthirty View Post
    (Never mind all of the futures that Moira lived through where Jean was never omniscient/omnipotent...)
    This, if Hickman couldn't fit this Jean thing in the main story he would have used this in an alt. timeline.Not to mention Jean not knowing or having a role in the timeline thing is more proof that she isn't omnipotent.

    Quote Originally Posted by Mercury View Post
    She is amid a transitory period. She is slowly budding…flowering. The One Above All is gradually making her aware of her true roots, power, and omniscience. Have patience.

    Now…

    At the off chance that they do, it would go against the story and style of writing.Hickman is deliberately limiting the use of powerful mutants to get his plot across(like Orchis attacks failing but no one else being sent).Although Hickman is done so it's upto the next writer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kingdom X View Post
    Quick question I’ve been spending way too much time thinking about. Doesn’t Cerebro still pick up the memories of individuals who have lost their X-gene due to the Scarlet Witch’s power? If that’s the case, wouldn’t Cerebro still have been picking up Wanda and Pietro’s backups even if she did reality warp their mutanthood away at some point?
    That's a good thought. In my opinion it would have to, otherwise they wouldn't be able to bring back depowered mutants without having them lose years worth of memories. They also can't rely on making an up to date backup during the Crucible, because not every depowered mutant is guaranteed to go through that and may die from other causes at any moment.

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    Is there actually going to be a Trial in the Trial of Magneto or was it a misleading title to get people reading?
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    Quote Originally Posted by andreikes View Post
    You lose your memory and then someone comes and shows you only the worst moments of your past... A depression and an outbreak.
    What horrible writing
    Those are the memories that triggered the kaiju. Doesn't mean that's all she was shown.
    Boop! Krakoa forever!

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    Wait: What if each Kaiju represents a specific memory? And as Wanda deals with each one, its Kaiju gets weaker or just leaves.

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    Quote Originally Posted by baumblume View Post
    Is there actually going to be a Trial in the Trial of Magneto or was it a misleading title to get people reading?
    Right?
    The title was editorially mandated.
    Leah has admitted in a podcast that she doesn't have the hubris to suggest such a title. This mini is essentially a 2 issue/arc pitch that editorial decided should be a mini and have Magneto's name on it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cruelrain View Post
    Didn't she need Emma to read Magneto's mi... never mind

    Everyone is acting like a fool under leah tbh
    To be fair, that was in character for this era's version of Jean lol
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    Guessing the Kaiju were summoned or created by Wanda??? Or why else would they just show suddenly

    Honestly though this seems like such a pointless event, that has lost track of what it was meant to show since issue 1, this event is just dragging on now and is beginning to just become more of a chore to read.
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    I would have been fine if it was a trial in the sense of Magneto confronting his own psyche about his own damage in treating his children but it’s not even about that.

    I genuinely feel defrauded for buying the print. Also lack of quicksilver
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    Quote Originally Posted by Diammandis View Post
    Guessing the Kaiju were summoned or created by Wanda??? Or why else would they just show suddenly

    Honestly though this seems like such a pointless event, that has lost track of what it was meant to show since issue 1, this event is just dragging on now and is beginning to just become more of a chore to read.
    This is definitely one of those minis that would have worked better weekly or even biweekly. The pacing is just too slow for such a dreadful story

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    Aside from the reveal at the end and all the Northstar stuff, this was a pretty wasted issue.

    Hope the explanation is worht it.

    Oh, bonus points for Jean and Rachel interacting, even though what they did makes no sense.

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