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    Quote Originally Posted by Ultimate Captain America View Post
    Superhero comics have always been mainly for a male public. It's for a simple reason: superhero fiction is a subgenre of action fiction. There are some other genres mixed as well, such as science fiction and fantasy, but action is the big one. And action is not appealing for female public, they prefer fiction about personal relations.

    Are comics made for a male audience? OF COURSE. That's basic marketing. Adjusting a product for an audience that wouldn't consume it anyway would be suicidal. The only valid reason for comic books to stop including sexual content is if their audience lost the interest in it.
    Or maybe to not sexualize women. It's not like women don't read comics. Nor do all of us men want to sexualize women either.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CosmiComic View Post
    It's weird to see a bunch of comments acting like political correctness is oppressing men when women have been poorly portrayed in comics and other media for decades. Why is anyone looking for comics to satiate their sexual desires? There are a bunch of websites for that.

    And John Venus brought up a good point about male sexualization still being from a male point of view. They're not drawn how women would like them because women haven't had much of a saw. And Venus is also right about the body not being in any way inherently sexual, because it isn't.
    No one is looking for comics to satiate their desires, people are complaining about any half-attractive women in comics when men are just as s*xualized if not more in current times and it's denied.

    Please explain, so much of media like male models and love stories targeted as women s*xualize men the same way as comics.How would women draw men?Not to mention the same people bashing women in comics are the ones drooling over over-s*xualized males on their TL so the male point of view thing is not true.

    Also if a lot of people on here(who actually buy the comics) think it's okay, and people on twitter complaining(who usually don't buy comics or even read them) have a problem then it shouldn't be paid attention to.The same way rap pages posted the superman is bi thing and people were furious, they shouldn't be payed any attention because regardless of their opinion they don't buy/read comics and are just using it to get clout.

    Quote Originally Posted by the illustrious mr. kenway View Post
    I just saw it as female fans critiquing how women are drawn in comics and animation.

    It's not a big deal to me because it's a worthwhile discussion to have.

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    Agreed, until they deny men aren't put through something similar in media(not saying it's equal btw, but denying it happens at all) and saying all men are trash.Then it's not a discussion as much as generalizing and s*xism.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ultimate Captain America View Post
    Superhero comics have always been mainly for a male public. It's for a simple reason: superhero fiction is a subgenre of action fiction. There are some other genres mixed as well, such as science fiction and fantasy, but action is the big one. And action is not appealing for female public, they prefer fiction about personal relations.

    Are comics made for a male audience? OF COURSE. That's basic marketing. Adjusting a product for an audience that wouldn't consume it anyway would be suicidal. The only valid reason for comic books to stop including sexual content is if their audience lost the interest in it.
    Not to mention most of the people complaining/agreeing w/ this don't even buy the comics, they either pirate them or just look at and complain about the cover art.Ofc. they shouldn't buy what they don't like, but "progressive" comics doesn't sell nearly as much consistently, do they?(By progressive here I mean art these people deem acceptable).They complain about JSC/Gomez yet their art sells, and the art these people love sells much less.So either they are a vocal minority, or aren't supporting comics they feel are good or worse both.

    And they complain about stuff that isn't even that exaggerated, the new JSC cover for MJ/Black Cat one shot is fine IMO.The irony is they will eat up stuff like the new Robin covers happily.The Double standard is so poorly hidden it's hilarious.

    JSC cover which is "disgusting"


    The new Robin cover which is "soooo good"


    Even Bleedingcool who was defending the guy who "fixed" JSC's art admits it's fanservice but ofc is males being over-s*xualized so it's perfectly fine....
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    1: Campbell has a particular style of art. I personally don't like it (cheesecake in general) but renowned artists became renowned because their art is visually recogniseable. As a creative he's allowed to draw however he wants, without anyone telling him what to draw and how to draw. You don't like your fictional teen characters looking a little "too mature" for their age...then don't buy/view his work. There's plenty of comic book art that "caters" to what you want so no need to get hung up on what you don't want.

    2: It's easier and faster to develop a "same face/body" style (especially for the classic artists who honed their talents with pencil on paper instead of the modern stylus on tablet)
    It's not that Romita Jr., Silvestri, Campbell, Lee, can't do different faces and body-types but when it comes to producing as many comics as they do on a deadline, easier is faster is better.

    And...If the hero description doesn't specifically call for "regular" face, height, body, size...we're getting beauty-full and athletic, ie the "super hero "ideal".
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    Men aren't nearly as sexualized as women. They never have been. So it's not a fair comparison

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