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    Default A penny for your thoughts on this

    So recently came across this and wanted to know what you think about it:-

    https://twitter.com/thewitchersbian/...95170518523905

    Also another discussion in which I was involved that I would like to know what you all think about

    Main tweet -> https://twitter.com/zatannafilm/stat...13203587649538

    Discussion starts here-> https://twitter.com/THEB4TMANS/statu...13532135989249

    I thought it was genuinely interesting until the other person unironically said "Men r trash"
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    The short answer is that artists aren't very good at drawing a variety of female faces while going for an idealized beauty. With men, there's usually a wide variety. With women, they often have that same triangle face that society has deemed to be beauty. You see this in comics a lot where characters are generally impossible to distinguish except through hair color. I don't believe this is exclusively due to boys and men being the primary targeted consumer, but that certainly doesn't help.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike_Murdock View Post
    The short answer is that artists aren't very good at drawing a variety of female faces while going for an idealized beauty. With men, there's usually a wide variety. With women, they often have that same triangle face that society has deemed to be beauty. You see this in comics a lot where characters are generally impossible to distinguish except through hair color. I don't believe this is exclusively due to boys and men being the primary targeted consumer, but that certainly doesn't help.
    Thanks, it makes sense but I still can't tell whose who men or women in these w/out their hair.

    Also I should have been more specific but I was talking more about the first link and the third one, the 2nd one was where the discussion happened and it was semi-related.

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    Pretty much all superhero comics are drawn with distorted body renderings (exaggerated muscles, hyper sexualized, often odd body proportions, etc.) and it's not uncommon at all for artists to render generically 'pretty' female and male faces that end up all looking pretty much alike except for hair or eye color. Some artists are better at rendering a more realistic and/or individualized human form and face than others. Comics fans have been pointing this out for years and will continue to do so. I doubt this will ever change so I don't get too fussed about it. Superheroes are fantasy characters, not real humans. If I really dislike the artwork or find the character renderings to be too distorted/sexualized/ridiculous, I just don't buy that book and avoid anything drawn by that artist in the future.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Clea View Post
    Pretty much all superhero comics are drawn with distorted body renderings (exaggerated muscles, hyper sexualized, often odd body proportions, etc.) and it's not uncommon at all for artists to render generically 'pretty' female and male faces that end up all looking pretty much alike except for hair or eye color. Some artists are better at rendering a more realistic and/or individualized human form and face than others. Comics fans have been pointing this out for years and will continue to do so. I doubt this will ever change so I don't get too fussed about it. Superheroes are fantasy characters, not real humans. If I really dislike the artwork or find the character renderings to be too distorted/sexualized/ridiculous, I just don't buy that book and avoid anything drawn by that artist in the future.
    This is my take as well, I find most people disagree on 2 things w/ this though

    1)It's just women, nothing wrong or exaggerated w/ how men are handled in these
    2)Female characters should not be hot.They will literally attack any half-hot female character design

    https://twitter.com/karazorlls/statu...23138918928399

    Very recent and despite decent proportions even compared to real life much less comics and getting the eye colors right and getting the freckles which most forget people are mad at it, praising the variants w/ no freckles, etc.From what I've seen they attack/dislike any artist w/ an art style that makes female character look half-hot and praise art that (IDK how to describe it very accurately) is much more child-like.Someone posted ones(Peach momoko) I'm talking about in said tweet so you can check it out if you wish.

    I like Both art styles btw, but hate when a small vocal minority wants one style dead and will hate on it whenever they can for no reason.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Spiderfan001 View Post
    2)Female characters should not be hot.They will literally attack any half-hot female character design
    This one always amuses me 'cause those people talk like hot women don't exist in real life.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spiderfan001 View Post
    This is my take as well, I find most people disagree on 2 things w/ this though

    1)It's just women, nothing wrong or exaggerated w/ how men are handled in these
    2)Female characters should not be hot.They will literally attack any half-hot female character design

    https://twitter.com/karazorlls/statu...23138918928399

    Very recent and despite decent proportions even compared to real life much less comics and getting the eye colors right and getting the freckles which most forget people are mad at it, praising the variants w/ no freckles, etc.From what I've seen they attack/dislike any artist w/ an art style that makes female character look half-hot and praise art that (IDK how to describe it very accurately) is much more child-like.Someone posted ones(Peach momoko) I'm talking about in said tweet so you can check it out if you wish.

    I like Both art styles btw, but hate when a small vocal minority wants one style dead and will hate on it whenever they can for no reason.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Spiderfan001 View Post
    So recently came across this and wanted to know what you think about it:-

    https://twitter.com/thewitchersbian/...95170518523905

    Also another discussion in which I was involved that I would like to know what you all think about

    Main tweet -> https://twitter.com/zatannafilm/stat...13203587649538

    Discussion starts here-> https://twitter.com/THEB4TMANS/statu...13532135989249

    I thought it was genuinely interesting until the other person unironically said "Men r trash"
    I just saw it as female fans critiquing how women are drawn in comics and animation.

    It's not a big deal to me because it's a worthwhile discussion to have.

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    Comics artists have always had an issue drawing teens accurate to their age. And sometimes draw babies as creepy mini adults instead of with child-like features.
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    Superhero comics have always been mainly for a male public. It's for a simple reason: superhero fiction is a subgenre of action fiction. There are some other genres mixed as well, such as science fiction and fantasy, but action is the big one. And action is not appealing for female public, they prefer fiction about personal relations.

    Are comics made for a male audience? OF COURSE. That's basic marketing. Adjusting a product for an audience that wouldn't consume it anyway would be suicidal. The only valid reason for comic books to stop including sexual content is if their audience lost the interest in it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ultimate Captain America View Post
    Superhero comics have always been mainly for a male public. It's for a simple reason: superhero fiction is a subgenre of action fiction. There are some other genres mixed as well, such as science fiction and fantasy, but action is the big one. And action is not appealing for female public, they prefer fiction about personal relations.

    Are comics made for a male audience? OF COURSE. That's basic marketing. Adjusting a product for an audience that wouldn't consume it anyway would be suicidal. The only valid reason for comic books to stop including sexual content is if their audience lost the interest in it.
    Or maybe to not sexualize women. It's not like women don't read comics. Nor do all of us men want to sexualize women either.

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