Alec Baldwin Fires Prop Gun on Set, Killing Cinematographer

[Kirby101]

Again, being a credited Producer does not mean he had any day to day duties or control, there were many producers on this movie. The Producer credit might have just been part of his pay package. Scarlet Johanson had Producer credit on Black Widow. How many here think she ran day to day production, you know supervising stunts and special effects?

[babyblob]

Again, being a credited Producer does not mean he had any day to day duties or control, there were many producers on this movie. The Producer credit might have just been part of his pay package. Scarlet Johanson had Producer credit on Black Widow. How many here think she ran day to day production, you know supervising stunts and special effects?

He helped write the movie also wasnt his production company involved in the making of it? . So I am going to guess the producer role was more then a token title at this point.

[AndrewCrossett]

Anyone can sue anyone for anything. If the Hutchins family or their lawyer are looking to get rich off this they would probably sue him, since he has more money than the AD and armorer who are actually responsible. The production company itself is probably an LLC.

But I'm sure she had life insurance, her GoFundMe has already raised 24x its goal amount, and I'm pretty sure Baldwin himself will see to it her family doesn't suffer financial hardship.

There is no basis whatsoever for charges against Baldwin. He was under no legal obligation to do the crew members' jobs for them.

[SUPERECWFAN1]

He helped write the movie also wasnt his production company involved in the making of it? . So I am going to guess the producer role was more then a token title at this point.

In looking at this Baldwin did write the story and called it a passion project. But like producers listed (there are 6 producers) this one also has numerous production companies listed on it too.

El Dorado Pictures
Cavalry Media
Thomasville Pictures
Brittany House Pictures
Short Porch Pictures

The budget was $6-7 million and its likely each company put money into project. Now they could sue every production company involved sure. Since they all were involved in this one.

[babyblob]

I get there are lots of production companies listed. And I get actors get their name attached as producers a lot. but Baldwin helped write the movie and called it a passion project many times. So maybe? Just maybe he knew more about that was happening on set with the crew and cast then most actors on other movies. If he didnt then how much of a passion project was it really?

So it was either a passion project he loved and was involved in and wanted to see made and knew what was happening, or it was just a paycheck and he didnt know shit about what was going on behind the scenes. It is hard to argue both being true at the same time. That is where there could be trouble in a law suit for him if he is named.

[SUPERECWFAN1]

I get there are lots of production companies listed. And I get actors get their name attached as producers a lot. but Baldwin helped write the movie and called it a passion project many times. So maybe? Just maybe he knew more about that was happening on set with the crew and cast then most actors on other movies. If he didnt then how much of a passion project was it really?

So it was either a passion project he loved and was involved in and wanted to see made and knew what was happening, or it was just a paycheck and he didnt know shit about what was going on behind the scenes. It is hard to argue both being true at the same time. That is where there could be trouble in a law suit for him if he is named.

Writing a film and getting it made is a lot different than knowing the entire crew of a film behind the scenes and knowing whats going on. Its more like David Goyer who wrote Blade films and finally got to direct Blade III. Its not like he went through and knew all the crew involved or what went on there. (And that was a complete clusterf-ck as we know detailed).

In all Baldwin co-wrote a film , got it finally done with help of other production companies to do and didn't have a hand beyond with crew.

[Gray Lensman]

I get there are lots of production companies listed. And I get actors get their name attached as producers a lot. but Baldwin helped write the movie and called it a passion project many times. So maybe? Just maybe he knew more about that was happening on set with the crew and cast then most actors on other movies. If he didnt then how much of a passion project was it really?

So it was either a passion project he loved and was involved in and wanted to see made and knew what was happening, or it was just a paycheck and he didnt know shit about what was going on behind the scenes. It is hard to argue both being true at the same time. That is where there could be trouble in a law suit for him if he is named.

I do remember reading that he attempted to negotiate with the union to prevent the walk off - if they raised safety concerns at that point it could increase Baldwin's liability, both in a criminal and a financial sense.

[kidfresh512]

‘Rust’ Armorer’s Lawyers Say ‘Disgruntled’ Person May Have Tried to ‘Sabotage’ Alec Baldwin Film

Attorneys for “Rust” armorer Hannah Gutierrez-Reed on Wednesday suggested that an unknown person may have intended to “sabotage” the now-infamous Alec Baldwin film by bringing live ammunition to the film’s Santa Fe, New Mexico set. According to search warrants, Baldwin shot and killed cinematographer Halyna Hutchins and wounded director Joel Souza after assistant director David Halls handed him a weapon that Halls announced was “cold.”

Gutierrez was “absolutely devastated and remains very emotional” about the incident, her attorney Jason Bowles told NBC’s Today show in an appearance alongside co-counsel Robert Gorence. The interview was part of a pair of morning show appearances; Bowles also appeared solo on ABC’s Good Morning America.

[inisideguy]

‘Rust’ Armorer’s Lawyers Say ‘Disgruntled’ Person May Have Tried to ‘Sabotage’ Alec Baldwin Film

Heck thats possible. But there are protocols that are suppose to be in place to prevent this very thing.

[AndrewCrossett]

This sounds awfully conspiracy-theory-ish to me, so I'll have to see more evidence to take it seriously. The armorer could be saying that just to lay the seeds of reasonable doubt in case she gets charged.

[Bunch of Coconuts]

[WebLurker]

Like that channel. Will have to watch that later.

[Agent Z]

Dwayne Johnson Pledges to Stop Using Real Guns on His Productions, Following ‘Rust’ Tragedy

https://variety.com/2021/film/news/d...st-1235104627/

[j9ac9k]

There is no basis whatsoever for charges against Baldwin. He was under no legal obligation to do the crew members' jobs for them.

Probably no criminal charges, but certain responsibilities just come with the title - if the film won an Oscar, he'd be up there as a producer getting credit. If the film gets sued in civil court, his title as producer makes him one of those named. Whether or not he'd personally be held accountable would be up to the judge.

On another note, I used to work props for films - low budget stuff, so I never handled a gun that even had blanks - the times I worked on a film that did, they hired a specialist. But even with the prop guns I worked with, where the barrels were plugged and the guns had no firing pins, I would always show the gun to the talent, show them that it was empty and have them visually confirm, etc... each time. While nobody would expect Baldwin to check the gun himself, part of the breakdown is that an experienced actor like him should not have just let someone hand him a gun assuming it was fine without that person showing him it was safe beforehand.

[inisideguy]

Probably no criminal charges, but certain responsibilities just come with the title - if the film won an Oscar, he'd be up there as a producer getting credit. If the film gets sued in civil court, his title as producer makes him one of those named. Whether or not he'd personally be held accountable would be up to the judge.

On another note, I used to work props for films - low budget stuff, so I never handled a gun that even had blanks - the times I worked on a film that did, they hired a specialist. But even with the prop guns I worked with, where the barrels were plugged and the guns had no firing pins, I would always show the gun to the talent, show them that it was empty and have them visually confirm, etc... each time. While nobody would expect Baldwin to check the gun himself, part of the breakdown is that an experienced actor like him should not have just let someone hand him a gun assuming it was fine without that person showing him it was safe beforehand.

What if it was loaded with blanks how would they show that to an actor before hand? What would be the process of showing the actor that the weapon only had blanks in it?