Is Lucas Bishop African or Aborigine?

[SecretWarrior]

Isn't the canon answer that he's both?

Sounds like he still has no confirm African ancestry.

I said it here already (on page 3):



You said this.



Which was not related and I never said they didn't call themselves black. Bishop was originally Black American. Are you saying AA males don't care as long as they see another person of color?

People, this was a retcon done by Claremont almost ten years later, end of story.

I was clarifying why using th term Black to make the distinction would be confusing.

If Bishop is purely Aboriginal, that should be recognized by the people working on his character.

[Devaishwarya]

Does it matter though? That there isn't confirmed proof of African ancestry?

As is, he's presented as a Black American (as Claremont wrote him) with Aboriginal ancestry (as Claremont later added)...so...in the absence of "hard proof"...he is Both.
And... the absence of said proof, does not make him 100% Aborigine...it just means we'll never know until a writer retcons it one way or the other.

[SecretWarrior]

Again, if Bishop is purely Aboriginal, like he appears to be since the retcon, that should be recognized by the people working on his character. There is no in-universe indication that he has African ancestry. His identity doesn't need to change (again).

[Devaishwarya]

To what end, though? Just for on-panel recognition?

If his identity doesn't need to change...If Bishop is purely Aboriginal...

They barely recognise that he has Aboriginal ancestry, as is canon. And if it's about recognition, then maybe, in the absence of proof he's 100% Aborigine, they should start there, with the 25% we know for certain.

[Will Evans]

I still find it weird that this whole time Shard called her brother by their surname.

[SecretWarrior]

To what end, though? Just for on-panel recognition?

If his identity doesn't need to change...If Bishop is purely Aboriginal...

They barely recognise that he has Aboriginal ancestry, as is canon. And if it's about recognition, then maybe, in the absence of proof he's 100% Aborigine, they should start there, with the 25% we know for certain.

Identity goes beyond one panel. There's no confirmation of any African ancestry since the retcon. That's fine.

[Triniking1234]

Was it explicitly confirmed that the old woman was indeed Storm? And it wasn't just conjecture created by a writer throwing **** at a wall to see if it will fly?
Genuinely asking.

No because The Life and Times of Lucas Bishop timeline says all the X-Men from the present (at the time of publishing) died during Wanda's depowering and the Hope conflict. Gambit was the only remaining X-Man living as the Witness.

[mace11]

You are right, the Australian aborigines, they are so to speak another different ethnic group, but do not expect them to agree with you, many have appropriated Bishop ignoring the canon and the race that he has according to comics.

But how I said also in canon it's at least 25% black, because old Ororo Monroe is Bishop's granny lol.

So then Bishop is 25% black, 75% Australian Aboriginal.

You mean is he 25% african black and 75% asian black (Australian Aboriginal).
100% black.
There are african blacks and asian blacks.
There are white asians too.
Some arabs are,some indians from india white,some persians etc..

[Anthony Shaw]

Outside media doesn't always follow canon though e.g. Cecilia Reyes.

Oh, I forgot about Sunspot, too.

[marhawkman]

You mean is he 25% african black and 75% asian black (Australian Aboriginal).
100% black.
There are african blacks and asian blacks.
There are white asians too.
Some arabs are,some indians from india white,some persians etc..

And this is an example of what I was talking about earlier when I said that some people use a definition of "Black" that's not cultural or ethnic, but rather just anyone with dark skin.

[Devaishwarya]

No because The Life and Times of Lucas Bishop timeline says all the X-Men from the present (at the time of publishing) died during Wanda's depowering and the Hope conflict. Gambit was the only remaining X-Man living as the Witness.

Ahh.
Thank you.

[dkrook]

Again, if Bishop is purely Aboriginal, like he appears to be since the retcon, that should be recognized by the people working on his character. There is no in-universe indication that he has African ancestry. His identity doesn't need to change (again).

Lol, I'm cool with him have a crap load of African features and phenotypes! Others can seek to argue what they will. He's of African decent one way or the other.

[Anthony Shaw]

I thought this topic was familiar.

https://community.cbr.com/showthread...e-of-all-races

[CosmiComic]

You mean is he 25% african black and 75% asian black (Australian Aboriginal).
100% black.
There are african blacks and asian blacks.
There are white asians too.
Some arabs are,some indians from india white,some persians etc..

Asian Black?

[Silver Fang]

Asian Black?

It's terminology. Black used to describe anyone with dark complexions, and some Asians get really dark.

When Spanish Soldiers went to Asia years back (not sure if it was the Conquistadors or not), they referred to Asians as "Negritos" which is "Little black people."