Batman only makes sense in the Justice League if...?

[mathew101281]

He bank roles the team and he’s the behind the scenes planning guy. Any role that has him fighting side by side with demigods is silly.

[lemonpeace]

that isn't really a discussion topic...

it's kinda just a "hot take", it would be more appropriate as a post in one of the Controversial Opinion threads.

[j9ac9k]

He bank roles the team and he’s the behind the scenes planning guy. Any role that has him fighting side by side with demigods is silly.

"Silly" or Fantasy? Like the idea that a man from space would put on a cape and tights and defend our way of life and an Amazon warrior woman flies an invisible jet? But stories of men and demigods go waaaaay back. It's not everyone's cup of tea, but it's a theme we humans have a desire to explore.

[LifeIsILL]

He doesn't even bank roll the team...that's one of the biggest misconceptions I see on youtube and facebook from "casuals".

I thought the post-crisis JLA run from 97-2006 showed a great way of representing how Batman works in a team. He was important, but didn't overshadow people in most of the stories.

[Lightning Rider]

He doesn't even bank roll the team...that's one of the biggest misconceptions I see on youtube and facebook from "casuals".

I thought the post-crisis JLA run from 97-2006 showed a great way of representing how Batman works in a team. He was important, but didn't overshadow people in most of the stories.

Yeah, I thought so too. He has a role to play, but isn't supreme.

[MoneySpider]

He's sitting in the Control Room dictating strategies for the team in the field.

[king81992]

Batman on the Justice League ONLY makes sense if he's a well adjusted hero and person, not some broken hero who can't save anyone, mistreat his family, friends and allies while making everything worse.

[Baron of Faltine]

Yeah, I thought so too. He has a role to play, but isn't supreme.

That should be the golden rule of all ensemble team story.

[John Venus]

He doesn't even bank roll the team...that's one of the biggest misconceptions I see on youtube and facebook from "casuals".

I thought the post-crisis JLA run from 97-2006 showed a great way of representing how Batman works in a team. He was important, but didn't overshadow people in most of the stories.

It was 'Tower of Babel' from that era that elevated him to Bat God status in the fandom though.

[exile001]

It was 'Tower of Babel' from that era that elevated him to Bat God status in the fandom though.

Much as I love Morrison's JLA, he started it right from the first arc. From "Gadget worked" as a little joke as to how Superman couldn't detect him in the Watchtower to his taking out THREE white Martians single handed armed only with some gas, a match and the ability to hold his breath longer than creatures who come from an atmosphere without oxygen (I kinda joke, I think DC's Mars did have oxygen).

Sure, a lot of following writers got the wrong idea from Morrison's run and read it as Batman is singly better than the whole JLA, but it was Morrison who created and popularised Bat-God as we've come to know and loathe him.

[SiegePerilous02]

I think Morrison toned it down a bit after that first arc, which was a too OTT. Their Batman wasn't infallible in that run considering he almost played right into the Key's hands in the following arc and it was Connor Hawke with a basic boxing glove arrow that saved the day.

I guess Morrison laid the groundwork, but I think Waid with Babel and the DCAU took it to absurd directions and those probably shoulder more of the blame for obnoxious Bat-God

[Baron of Faltine]

He bank roles the team and he’s the behind the scenes planning guy. Any role that has him fighting side by side with demigods is silly.

Unless he wear a power armour to balance things out. Albeit one can argue that technically the batmobile is just that, minus the humanoid limbs. Of course there is Batman of the future who use a power exoskeleton and no one has issue with it. (But is kind different world where villain are more powerfull...and kind of creepierat times if it is even possible in a Batman universe)

[Riv86672]

Batman only makes sense in the Justice League if...

[SecretWarrior]

With the right tech, he’s be as dangerous as the MCU’s baseline humans, like Falcon, Black Widow, or Hawkeye. His power armor is probably about as strong as an early Iron Man model, minus the guns. The Batwing or a Bat Satellite could provide aerial or orbital bombardment. He can also do things like use tech to summon bats. Paired with the element of surprise, he could play a decent support role, next to the equivalents of MCU Thor, Iron Man, Hulk, or Quicksilver. A Batman with the tech I listed could be as effective as MCU Cap, though perhaps not as resilient or quick to recover from injury.

His detective, hacking, and other information-gathering ability is useful in the parts of the story that don’t involve punching aliens, robots, or demons. That’s helpful when going up against secret organizations like Cadmus.

Batman is always going to be an audience draw too.

[SecretWarrior]