Well, you've gotta remember that compared to other forms of media, comics are much smaller in exposure. None of the X-Men shows featured LGBTQ characters being openly LGBTQ, and out of all the movies, they only had Bobby's coded "Have you ever tried NOT being a mutant?" joke. To the non-readers who make up the majority of the audience, this really is coming out of nowhere.
This would be amazing and I for one would be all for it. The Austen origin story for Kurt was dumb as hell and most of the folks that hate the new version or Kurt's origin (which is really the old one, if you know what I mean) are just weird right wing phobic types. It's oxymoronic that such people are fans of this franchise, TBH.
Yeah, I'm thinking that this is the case. We'll just have to wait and see.
"Kids don't care **** about superhero comic books. And if they do, they probably start with manga, with One Punch-Man or My Hero Academia. " -ImOctavius.
I'm personally opposed to this notion that you 'cannot' be a fan of the X-men (or any other media franchise that's perceived as being 'progressive' or 'left-leaning'...Doctor Who and Star Trek are other examples that spring to mind) if you do not wholeheartedly support every opinion held by the activists, political leaders, and media/corporate elites who currently hold sway over 'progressive' or 'left-wing' discource. Or that there's some immutable binary between being a perfect 'progressive' or a perfect 'conservative' (or, to use the progressive parlance, 'bigot' or 'deplorable'), which can be perfectly mapped onto being 'good' or 'evil'.
Also, my two cents on the usage of the term 'woke', because its often used to describe two (or more) completely different things. There are people, including on this thread, who use 'woke' as a synonym for 'liberal', 'progressive' or 'tolerant' (which means that being anti-woke is by definition being illiberal, regressive and intolerant). Whereas many people, including myself, use the term 'woke' to describe what is essentially a kind of neo-Marxist construct wherein the world is divided into permanent 'oppressor' and 'oppressed' groups, and the 'oppressed' groups need to be empowered to fight and dominate the 'oppressor' groups (who's an 'oppressor' and who's 'oppressed' being determined by political/business expediency).
Well said!
True. And I think the best X-men stories (and the best stories in general) are the ones which try to capture this complexity.
I feel that's why there are (or at least were...its been awhile since I've been part of one of those discussions) a not insignificant contingent of fans who felt uncomfortable with the Krakoa era - because it upset their simplistic worldview of permanent 'oppressor' and 'oppressed' groups.
Tbh I feel like the X-Men would still be up for using Morph's preferred pronouns. They're Morph's friends and the X-Men would know not to judge people for being different, even if they might not fully understand it. Not that mutants can't be ignorant or intolerant of others, but it's perfectly reasonable for them to be cool with it.
Very oxymoronic my friend. Totally agree, do it the way Claremont intended. Even the way they left Mystique and Kurt could work.
She survived her fall in the water, she cried watching Kurt and Rogue, knowing full well she lied to Kurt about how he came to be. It also dredges up for her memories of her beloved Irene and you just take the story from there.
When you put it that way, that is very reasonable and believable.
And then you have "woke" types who try to suppress everything they dislike. "You disagree with us, therefore you're bad and not allowed to share your opinion!"
But yeah that kinda works alongside the "oppressor" thing a lot of the time. The ranting on social media is all about competing for dominance.
https://twitter.com/XMenUpdate/statu...24198847668507
though there isn't a ton of animation that disney puts out nowadays‘X-MEN '97’ trailer set an internal Disney record as the biggest launch for an animated series on Disney Plus.
If it wasn't obvious before, the X-Men 97 definitely went viral and got a lot of people's attention.
I'm curious how the Hellfire Club will factor into the plot, since I think we have an idea of what's going on with Sinister and the Sentinels.
True.
And honestly, I'm okay with the social media ranting - which is just another way we all express our right to free speech and open debate.
The problem is that, in recent years, some of this 'competing for dominance' has gone far beyond the realm of ranting, with institutional power (be it government, media or corporate) being leveraged to target people with views that the 'woke' disagree with. And now we're seeing some pushback against this...pushback which, in many cases, unfortunately, throws the baby out with the bathwater and sets us a little back in terms of tolerance and acceptance of diversity.
Between that, Deadpool & Wolverine's trailer views and Bob Iger's comments about how Marvel will prioritize their biggest franchises going forward, it's hard not to speculate that Disney might fast-track more X-Men stuff in the near future instead of jerking around and making us wait until 202X for a proper X-Men reboot.
The agreement also provides Disney with the opportunity to reunite the X-MEN with the Marvel family under one roof and create richer, more complex worlds of inter-related characters and stories that audiences have shown they love. It only makes sense for Marvel to be supervised by one entity. There shouldn't be two Marvels.