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    Quote Originally Posted by Kurolegacy View Post
    Given that, it’s a wonder that she didn’t end up with disassociate identity disorder. No telling what kind of damage absorbing countless memories of others could do to a person’s psyche.
    She's had a few breakdowns. The Hecatomb almost did her in actually.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RachelGrey View Post
    Rachel Summers
    PTSD from extreme abuse and being mind controlled to kill the people she cared about during a brutal war that caused the loss of every single person she cared about.
    And she is one of the few that has been shown to receive treatment via therapy in book.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AppleJ View Post
    Rogue's control over her absorption powers is essentially contingent on her ability to control her fear and anxiety around them, so it's something she always has to work on.
    That has nothing to do with a mental health problem, Rogue just has to be careful not to lose control of her emotions or the absorption would become uncontrollable, but that has nothing to do with a mental health problem.


    Rogue can store countless psyches and memories, and with control she can choose not to absorb minds, or order them ( emma herself mentioned it) or give up those memories. So Rogue doesn't suffer from any mental health problems at least not with control, even without control she didn't seem to have any problems except on a couple of very specific occasions.


    The ones with mental health problems are Legion, Lorna, T MARY, AND STORM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AppleJ View Post
    She's had a few breakdowns. The Hecatomb almost did her in actually.

    Eeeeee no really no.

    Hecatomb were 8 billion entities, and she did quite well considering this, what almost killed her was the experimental phase virus that injected her with the doc.pandemic.


    She with control has not had problems with the psyches because she can be selective if she takes them or not, and if she takes them we already know she can order them or give them up.
    so Rogue is left out of the characters with mental health problems.


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    Quote Originally Posted by blinkingblah View Post
    Aurora has multiple personalities.

    Polaris is bi-polar.
    Polaris is not bi-polar. This is a fan canon made up by people who’s first encounters with Lorna were the gifted and saw her as “crazy” in the Wolverine and the X-Men cartoon. She has never been diagnosed in the comics and if she were it would’ve been brought up during her therapy sessions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sylarmax View Post
    Eeeeee no really no.

    Hecatomb were 8 billion entities, and she did quite well considering this, what almost killed her was the experimental phase virus that injected her with the doc.pandemic.


    She with control has not had problems with the psyches because she can be selective if she takes them or not, and if she takes them we already know she can order them or give them up.
    so Rogue is left out of the characters with mental health problems.
    Okay my knowledge of Rogue might be faulty (it's easier to keep the whole history of c-listers like Marrow in memory than A-listers like Rogue), but what i recall seems to check out with that. A few natural moments of ups, downs and despair maybe, but her mind seems to be pretty sturdy all things considered. Go Rogue!

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    Quote Originally Posted by UncannyLZ View Post
    Polaris is not bi-polar. This is a fan canon made up by people who’s first encounters with Lorna were the gifted and saw her as “crazy” in the Wolverine and the X-Men cartoon. She has never been diagnosed in the comics and if she were it would’ve been brought up during her therapy sessions.
    Magneto talking about Zaladane using Lorna's power.

    "Raw emotion manifesting itself as raw energy... The power controls her as much as she does it."

    That was the take on EM power and psychology broadly used from the 70s thru the early 2000s by the x-books. More modern writers are confused about it and if they don't really understand it should ignore it. But, when Lorna or Magneto start bleeding power and start looking like more forces of nature then people that is the power boosting them. That isn’t bipolar though you are right.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sylarmax View Post
    That has nothing to do with a mental health problem, Rogue just has to be careful not to lose control of her emotions or the absorption would become uncontrollable, but that has nothing to do with a mental health problem.


    Rogue can store countless psyches and memories, and with control she can choose not to absorb minds, or order them ( emma herself mentioned it) or give up those memories. So Rogue doesn't suffer from any mental health problems at least not with control, even without control she didn't seem to have any problems except on a couple of very specific occasions.


    The ones with mental health problems are Legion, Lorna, T MARY, AND STORM.
    You do know 99% of psychlogical problems has in one way or another been about controlling emotions. So yeah there are mental problems if someone loses control of the emotions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sylarmax View Post
    That has nothing to do with a mental health problem, Rogue just has to be careful not to lose control of her emotions or the absorption would become uncontrollable, but that has nothing to do with a mental health problem.


    Rogue can store countless psyches and memories, and with control she can choose not to absorb minds, or order them ( emma herself mentioned it) or give up those memories. So Rogue doesn't suffer from any mental health problems at least not with control, even without control she didn't seem to have any problems except on a couple of very specific occasions.


    The ones with mental health problems are Legion, Lorna, T MARY, AND STORM.
    Honey, I don't know how you don't understand that chronic anxiety and fear IS a mental health issue. That's not an insult to her character.

    It's ok and actually a good thing for a character to not be perfect and have weaknesses. It makes them more relatable and more interesting. Your need to "correct" everyone about Rogue and how they should see her is frankly exhausting on this board.

    And yes, Sinister himself speaks about how fragmented her mind is due to the Hecatomb combined with strain 88.

    You need to let go of the "Rogue is perfect and the strongest and best" rhetoric. We are not 5.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AppleJ View Post
    She's had a few breakdowns. The Hecatomb almost did her in actually.
    One could also view the time Rogue retreated into her subconscious and let Carol Danvers take control of her mind as a dissociative event. I mean, literally she retreats into her mind, fights the pyches there, relinquishes control to Carol, and is unaware of what is going on with her body for a span of time. This is highly reminiscent of how people in real life respond to extremely traumatic events. Pretty sure Claremont was well aware if this when he wrote it. And we already know this event is a key factor for why Rogue struggles with control going forward.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dragon1440 View Post
    You do know 99% of psychlogical problems has in one way or another been about controlling emotions. So yeah there are mental problems if someone loses control of the emotions.
    You did not really understand, and it is not the case with Rogue, Rogue loses control of her powers if she falls into fear, that is, if she gets too scared at some point, she returns to have uncontrollable absorption, but she can regain it once stop being afraid.


    So it is not a mental health problem, nor is it that Rogue is a schizophrenic, I really did not think that I had the need to be so specific, if Rogue is very scared, Her absorption becomes involuntary again, so it is not a problem mental health, it is just a device (fear) that instinctively activates absorption.



    So in effect Rogue is not one of those characters with mental problems, at least not with control of her powers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grunty View Post
    Okay my knowledge of Rogue might be faulty (it's easier to keep the whole history of c-listers like Marrow in memory than A-listers like Rogue), but what i recall seems to check out with that. A few natural moments of ups, downs and despair maybe, but her mind seems to be pretty sturdy all things considered. Go Rogue!
    Exactly, they have been very specific and temporary events, so it is absurd to classify them as mental health problems, when it is something that was linked to his powers and he dealt with it very well.


    But what is more absurd to read than fear, which is a normal emotion, they consider it a mental illness lol, and in Rogue's case the only fear that Sue does is the absorption manifests nothing that has to do with mental health lol, but in the end it was funny to read that and how wrong that analysis was.


    But well now with control she knows she can sort the psyches in her head, as emma mentioned, or give them up when she wants, or not take them in the first place, which excludes any erroneous theories they had regarding the mental health of she.


    The characters for mental health issues are Aurora, Polaris, Legion, Storm, and depending on if you take the past Magneto and Emma, ​​and Mystique who is basically something of a psychopath.

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    Darkling/Asylum Henrique Gallente. He was born with fetal alcohol syndrome and his life spiralled out of control with abusive family members and drugs. He was last seen in an institution.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sylarmax View Post
    You did not really understand, and it is not the case with Rogue, Rogue loses control of her powers if she falls into fear, that is, if she gets too scared at some point, she returns to have uncontrollable absorption, but she can regain it once stop being afraid.


    So it is not a mental health problem, nor is it that Rogue is a schizophrenic, I really did not think that I had the need to be so specific, if Rogue is very scared, Her absorption becomes involuntary again, so it is not a problem mental health, it is just a device (fear) that instinctively activates absorption.



    So in effect Rogue is not one of those characters with mental problems, at least not with control of her powers.
    Have you dealt with psychological problems including bipolar, ptsd, major anxiety, and more, as well as have college education in psychology. Yeah I just dont get it.

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    I'm not sure if this counts, since I'm not native to English definitions, but I think Laura Kinney/X-23 might count.
    She has long history of: PTSD, self harm and depression - due to her childhood in Facility and then being sexually abused as a kid.

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