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    Default DC characters you think would be more interesting if they were gender swapped?

    To me...

    To me most of the major characters who already have prominent female counter parts wouldn’t work because you would essentially be cannibalizing an existing characters thing.

    To me... Captain Comet would be interesting as a female character, at least their is nothing in the characters premise, under arching themes or aesthetic that says that it has to be male.

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    Wonder Woman!! (LOL)

    Jokes aside, maybe a male Black Canary could be interesting.
    Or even better, I think there must be more males Star Sapphires. Men also feel love, you know?
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    I’d love to see Misfit get away from the already overcrowded Batfamily where she’s wasting away and take up the mantle of Ted Kord’s version of Blue Beetle. She’s made for that kind of fun loving whacky adventures role.


    She’d have a nice mix of tech and actual powers that aren’t Scarab dependent.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thor-Ul View Post
    Jokes aside, maybe a male Black Canary could be interesting.
    You read my mind. My thought first thought was Black Canary as well. I think in the Silver Age there was an alternate universe counterpart of hers who was male and was called Black Condor I think. He had bare legs.

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    I think most villains would become more interesting if you genderswap them, because it's still unusual to see women used for these archetypes and vice versa.

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    I considered the JSA but most of them have female counterparts.

    But moving down the generations a bit, I would like to see how:

    Reine Harper

    Donald Troy

    Wendy West

    Bob Gordon

    Ronald Roth/Raven


    would turn out to be like.

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    Zatanna Zatrara... Oh, wait. Never mind.

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    Quote Originally Posted by John Venus View Post
    I considered the JSA but most of them have female counterparts.

    But moving down the generations a bit, I would like to see how:

    Reine Harper

    Donald Troy

    Wendy West

    Bob Gordon

    Ronald Roth/Raven


    would turn out to be like.
    On Wendy West, that's kind of the idea behind Iris. She's stepping into big shoes and still meets the red head speedster criteria, but you get it from a girl's perspective with a gender neutral superhero name.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Psy-lock View Post
    I think most villains would become more interesting if you genderswap them, because it's still unusual to see women used for these archetypes and vice versa.
    That is because it is hard to write a women getting punched in the face without getting torn to pieces on line. Say the Joker was a woman and Batman was shown punching her out. The online white knights would be so up in arms screaming about how Batman beats women and the writer is a sexist pig for having Batman hit a woman and on and on. That is the main reason you do not see many female protaginists.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zero Hunter View Post
    That is because it is hard to write a women getting punched in the face without getting torn to pieces on line. Say the Joker was a woman and Batman was shown punching her out. The online white knights would be so up in arms screaming about how Batman beats women and the writer is a sexist pig for having Batman hit a woman and on and on. That is the main reason you do not see many female protaginists.
    That wouldn't be much of an issue if there had been a serious female equivalent of a Doomsday or Solomon Grundy type unstoppable beast. Unfortunately, writers are not comfortable with creating such a grotesque, non-sexualized, physically uber powerful female character. I guess Orca is the closest and she's rarely used or not treated as an actual threat.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zero Hunter View Post
    That is because it is hard to write a women getting punched in the face without getting torn to pieces on line. Say the Joker was a woman and Batman was shown punching her out. The online white knights would be so up in arms screaming about how Batman beats women and the writer is a sexist pig for having Batman hit a woman and on and on. That is the main reason you do not see many female protaginists.
    So outright and in several regards disrespectful trash like this is fine:



    but just creating a female villain, and having the hero fight and punch her would be somehow a problem? Let's be honest here for a second, what you say is obviously not the main reason and never was, it is even basically the opposite because the main reason for a lack of female pro-and antagonists back in the days was sexism and that has still aftereffects nowadays.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zero Hunter View Post
    That is because it is hard to write a women getting punched in the face without getting torn to pieces on line. Say the Joker was a woman and Batman was shown punching her out. The online white knights would be so up in arms screaming about how Batman beats women and the writer is a sexist pig for having Batman hit a woman and on and on. That is the main reason you do not see many female protaginists.
    Let me remind you that DC allowed Batman to one-punch Cheetah of all people:

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zero Hunter View Post
    That is because it is hard to write a women getting punched in the face without getting torn to pieces on line. Say the Joker was a woman and Batman was shown punching her out. The online white knights would be so up in arms screaming about how Batman beats women and the writer is a sexist pig for having Batman hit a woman and on and on. That is the main reason you do not see many female protaginists.
    But if it is a woman who can fight and has powers then it's on the heroes for holding back against a dangerous opponent.

    The flip side is female characters, even ones with super powers, getting easily beaten by a male character, even one who is not super human. There is also the unfortunate trope of female characters being treated as disposable either as villains, love interests or civilians.

    Quote Originally Posted by Confuzzled View Post
    That wouldn't be much of an issue if there had been a serious female equivalent of a Doomsday or Solomon Grundy type unstoppable beast. Unfortunately, writers are not comfortable with creating such a grotesque, non-sexualized, physically uber powerful female character. I guess Orca is the closest and she's rarely used or not treated as an actual threat.
    Besides Orca there is also Rampage.

    Then there is the Female Furies who has Stompa, Bernadeth and Mad Harriet among their ranks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by John Venus View Post
    You read my mind. My thought first thought was Black Canary as well. I think in the Silver Age there was an alternate universe counterpart of hers who was male and was called Black Condor I think. He had bare legs.
    I know there was an issue with mr mxyzptlk where he created a gender swap world and put Superman in it, which included a Black Condor in the JLA along with Wonder Warrior, Batwoman and a female Flash.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mathew101281 View Post
    To me...

    To me most of the major characters who already have prominent female counter parts wouldn’t work because you would essentially be cannibalizing an existing characters thing.

    To me... Captain Comet would be interesting as a female character, at least their is nothing in the characters premise, under arching themes or aesthetic that says that it has to be male.
    A female version of Captain Comet would actually be really interesting. A Silver Age style sci fi book with a female space hero as the lead would be a lot of fun.

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