DC characters you think would be more interesting if they were gender swapped?

[kjn]

I think if it was simply a current gender-swap like Starfire suddenly becoming male, it might make little difference. But if a talented writer was to take a male member of the Big Six (so not Diana) and write it out so the gender-swapped heroine was the start of their DC legacy it could be very interesting.

You arguably already have that one, with Bombshells. There you have Wonder Woman, Mera, Stargirl, and Supergirl in the first generation of public heroes.

A feminist take on Batman could be very interesting, because he is so a part of a specific type of masculinity.

[LifeIsILL]

Cyborg.

I really liked Cyborgirl....too bad almost nothing was done with her. What's wrong with you DC?

[marhawkman]

An immortal *physically* powerful top-tier sort of villain like Vandal Savage or Black Adam being reimagined as a woman would interest me. (Circe has a different sort of ageless power, being the 'stand back and throw zaps' sort of powerful female character we already have plenty of, I'm more interested in seeing a female mastermind/powerhouse who wades into a fight and starts beating heads, over one who cackles from a distance while throwing energy blasts like a Halloween witch on steroids.)

On the other hand, if re-imagined as a woman, they'd inevitably be redeemed and become antiheroes by the magic of the Batpeen or whatever.

Mmm... Well.. Devastation was created for this sort of role. Technically she's 12 or so, but as a daughter of Cronus, she's functionally ageless. But... she doesn't really have the sort of outlook on life someone like Vandal or Circe would have.

Oh, it's definitely gonna change. The reason everyone is okay with Nightwing is because for a long time he's the one manservice that everyone consciously make, as in, it's not just standard procedure athletic body and shirtlessness, but if it's flipped then it's just another one for the long line of female fanservice, and there wouldn't be anything new about it.

Thing is.. in many ways... Batgirl and Nightwing already act as male/female doubles of each other.

Also they went and made a female Nightwing (Cheyenne Freemont) who was adequately sexy. Hmm... if they bring her back she could be a romantic interest for Dick.

Noa male Starfire, as is, can still work, because she's so built with fanservice, being the innocent foreigner who kisses to understand language, wearing skimpy battle armor, has no qualms with nudity or polyamory, powered up by the sun, therefore, requiring to wear minimal clothing, you don't get that with Superman, being a swimsuit model as a job. Do we have male DC characters that have all those things? Dick is the closest but even his stint as a male model and stripper was temporary. Yeah, I want male Kori.

I just don't find those things interesting in Kory as she is. I'd probably find them even less interesting in a male Starfire. YMMV.

Yeah... Koriand'r has a brother named Ryand'r. You know where THIS is going. Oh right he was never a major character.

[Psy-lock]

I do want a male amazon... with maybe a better story than Jason

Well, there's Achilles Warkiller and the Gargareans from Gail Simone's run, but they haven't appeared since New 52.

[Robotman]

To me...

To me most of the major characters who already have prominent female counter parts wouldn’t work because you would essentially be cannibalizing an existing characters thing.

To me... Captain Comet would be interesting as a female character, at least their is nothing in the characters premise, under arching themes or aesthetic that says that it has to be male.

A female version of Captain Comet would actually be really interesting. A Silver Age style sci fi book with a female space hero as the lead would be a lot of fun.

[Adekis]

Generally speaking I don't have any characters I really am bleeding to see genderswapped. However, I do have this idea that they could have Jon turn out to be Cir-El pre-transition, and I think that'd be cool. Bring back Cir and make Jon more interesting in a single move. They'd never do it though.

[Aahz]

Is it assumed Robin is more of an equal partner than a junior one if his mentor is BatWOMAN?

If we are talking about the Kate Kane Batwoman the answer is no.

[RobinGA]

A male Amazon who had been abandoned would be an interesting story.
Especially if he is in the modern world being a hero.
But feels that he doesn't fit in anywhere, because of being repudiated.
It is the Moses story of Exodus, but with a modern twist.

The question becomes which of the Amazon's would be his mother.

[Restingvoice]

A male Amazon who had been abandoned would be an interesting story.
Especially if he is in the modern world being a hero.
But feels that he doesn't fit in anywhere, because of being repudiated.
It is the Moses story of Exodus, but with a modern twist.

The question becomes which of the Amazon's would be his mother.

Phillipus
or
Antiope

[RobinGA]

It could be any of the women, not Diana and not Hippolyta.

But you could imagine say a woman leaving Themyscira for a time.
She falls in love, has a baby boy. But has to return to Themyscira, although
she doesn't want to go. She places the child with friends of hers who perhaps
can't have children.

The boy grows up with his Amazon heritage secret. The parents when he is young
keep it to themselves as they are just unsure what the government might do.
But as he gets older his Amazon abilities become harder to hide: flight, endurance, tremendous strength.
They tell him the truth. He remains curious about his
Amazon heritage, but well there is nothing beyond what Man's World has in the popular culture.
It leaves him interested in the mother that he figures he will never know. But in time he
grows into a superhero, but with mixed feelings of how he fits into the world. Of course, even if
he could make it to Themyscira, he could never visit because men are not allowed to set foot
there on pain of death. But then one day this young superhero meets Wonder Woman.

That is one way I think the story could go.

[Dr. Skeleton]

I'd definitely be all for the Joker being a female.

[John Venus]

Nightwing - I feel if we flipped Dick's gender that would probably change the optics of how much DC/writers/fans sexualizes him and I'd be curious to see if they'll keep that same energy. it could be seen as sex/body positivity but it also very easily could be interpretated as exploitation; however, given DC's track record, they would 100% make him/her bisexual because of it tho.

I think they would still keep the same energy. Sexualizing female heroes is still very normalized. We can't have a Power Girl appearance without a boob joke or a Starfire appearance without some spotlight on Kory's free spirited nature.

Vixen - I feel like if Vixen was a man, she would've been seen as DC's answer to Black Panther and likely would've been pushed more. considering how much potential for growth and development Vixen has, that would probably mean a far more fleshed out niche for the character; and probably less fretting over their connection to The Red tbh.

I hate how accurate this is. Though knowing WB/DC they might not even adapt the character with a weak excuse like 'the character is too similar to BP'.

An immortal *physically* powerful top-tier sort of villain like Vandal Savage or Black Adam being reimagined as a woman would interest me. (Circe has a different sort of ageless power, being the 'stand back and throw zaps' sort of powerful female character we already have plenty of, I'm more interested in seeing a female mastermind/powerhouse who wades into a fight and starts beating heads, over one who cackles from a distance while throwing energy blasts like a Halloween witch on steroids.)

On the other hand, if re-imagined as a woman, they'd inevitably be redeemed and become antiheroes by the magic of the Batpeen or whatever.

Yeah, it would be interesting to see how a woman would view the passage of time and history. I think the closest we had to a character like that was Matt Wagner and Amy Reeder's Madame Xanadu series.

I think if it was simply a current gender-swap like Starfire suddenly becoming male, it might make little difference. But if a talented writer was to take a male member of the Big Six (so not Diana) and write it out so the gender-swapped heroine was the start of their DC legacy it could be very interesting.

Picture an Elseworlds take on The Other History where Batwoman or Superwoman were the face of superheroes without male equals (at the time). Or just to make it even more impactful one of these two being the first hero of the DCU in the Golden Age.

What about a woman whose indominable will and courage make her the ideal candidate for GL of sector 2814 while the same qualities make people consider her civilian identity a "B*tch"

Or the obvious sexist jokes a woman called the "Flash" or the "fastest woman alive" would face- while trying to create a legend as a hero.

How does Diana take not being the sole major female founder of the Justice League. Not meaning his in a "two powerful women must be in competiton" sense. More that in the real world Diana has often been shown as being an A-class hero compared to many of her fellow female Leaguers who came off as B-class (or worse) . I'm talking in terms that seeing World Leaders consult with the Trinity or even the Big Seven felt natural but the same scene without the Big Guns but with Ollie, Dinah, the Hawks, Zatanna or Firestorm didn't feel as plausible. So in a reality where another of the Big Seven was female makes Wonder Woman less of the Female Icon Leaguer and more of her own person (in the sense each of the other is theor own icon and not the sole Male icon).

Hell, if it is only one hero gender-swapped imagine the original Teen Titans having a male character who is the sidekick to a female hero on team where all the others are sidekicks to people of the same gender.

Is it assumed Robin is more of an equal partner than a junior one if his mentor is BatWOMAN?

Even avoiding any actual impropriety what is the perception of female heroes with young male sideicks? Especially if Olivia Queen is as frisky as Oliver came off (again not implying Olivia and Roy are involved, just that her flirtatious nature might spark rumors)

DC's Bombshells universe might be the closest DC has had to an all female led DCU.

Zachary is currently the only male hero to a female side kick that I can think of. Maybe if the Nu52 didn't wipe everything away we might have seen how he dealt with that.

Cyborg.

I really liked Cyborgirl....too bad almost nothing was done with her. What's wrong with you DC?

As I recall, she was also a villain. Might make good foil for Vic.

Phillipus
or
Antiope

Alkyone probably makes the most sense for that kind of plot. She is the closest the Amazons have to a Killmonger equivalent.

I'd definitely be all for the Joker being a female.

Batgirl & Robin: Thrillseeker Elseworlds has a female Joker. I highly recommend checking it out.

[marhawkman]

I think they would still keep the same energy. Sexualizing female heroes is still very normalized. We can't have a Power Girl appearance without a boob joke or a Starfire appearance without some spotlight on Kory's free spirited nature.

well... have you looked at how Aquaman dresses?

I hate how accurate this is. Though knowing WB/DC they might not even adapt the character with a weak excuse like 'the character is too similar to BP'.

They also have animal Man who is basically a male vixen already.

[lemonpeace]

They also have animal Man who is basically a male vixen already.

yeah no, he's REALLY not...

[marhawkman]

yeah no, he's REALLY not...

In terms of how his powers work? yes, he is quite similar. personality? NOPE!