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    If this leads to more Yang stuff, Kenan or otherwise, then heck yes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by garazza View Post
    I'm nothing if not stubborn.

    It ain't happening anytime soon but damn if I'm not gonna keep trying to speak it into existence XD

    [keeps Jon firmly on the "futile but hopeful" list with Wanda and Pietro Maximoff, Franklin Richards, and the Spider-Marriage]

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    Quote Originally Posted by garazza View Post
    Runs are allowed to have duds. It worked for what it was, but I can understand people finding it too unnecessarily preachy.



    Every comic book shop got a call that more or less said "Do you have the gay issue?" That's not success, that's speculation. Those people aren't going to call back for issue 6.

    Also, Jon was never boring, he was just new and undefined, which wouldn't have been a problem if he was never aged up and just allowed to be a kid and naturally develop as a character. If we were in the good timeline, Jon's Superboy solo book would be at issue 5 with an annual. And it's not too late to do that (it's never too late). It wouldn't be topping the charts or anything, but it never should be expected to.

    Tbh, I'd rather Kara be elevated to the Superman spot as Earth's defender, but Kenan is just as deserving of that push. Kenan would inject that "new" energy back into the Superbooks that Jon did during his introduction.
    Eh, I don't see how elevating other character to Earth's Defender can bring back the "new" energy that Jon brought. Simply because Jon was decades in the making and Rebirth was coming off the New52. I can't see no other character replicating that.

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    Well, no offense to the new guy but this doesn't seem ideal. We've been getting some legit quality out of the line lately and I'm sorry to see anyone who helped make that happen leave. Super books haven't been this good in ages.

    I wish the new guy luck. I'm not sure how DC structures their editorial (everyone seems to do it a bit differently) or how much authority/influence comes with this particular gig, but I hope he's up to the challenge and has the opportunity to maintain and improve the line's quality.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ascended View Post
    Well, no offense to the new guy but this doesn't seem ideal. We've been getting some legit quality out of the line lately and I'm sorry to see anyone who helped make that happen leave. Super books haven't been this good in ages.

    I wish the new guy luck. I'm not sure how DC structures their editorial (everyone seems to do it a bit differently) or how much authority/influence comes with this particular gig, but I hope he's up to the challenge and has the opportunity to maintain and improve the line's quality.
    Yep. If nothing else, don't mess with PKJ and his run and what he's building. And Superman '78 for that matter too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ascended View Post
    Well, no offense to the new guy but this doesn't seem ideal. We've been getting some legit quality out of the line lately and I'm sorry to see anyone who helped make that happen leave. Super books haven't been this good in ages.

    I wish the new guy luck. I'm not sure how DC structures their editorial (everyone seems to do it a bit differently) or how much authority/influence comes with this particular gig, but I hope he's up to the challenge and has the opportunity to maintain and improve the line's quality.
    This is how I feel as well.

    I want the new regime to be excellent, but goddammit I've been enjoying the Superman line for a while now so we'll see where this all leads. Nevertheless, welcome aboard.
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    Jaime Rich also took over the Superline after previously working on the Batbooks, so fingers crossed our new head works out like the old one did. I am curious what this means for some of the smaller side books, like what we’ve been getting from Venditti for example. Will he still get those minis or will Kaminski want to bring in new writers?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Robanker View Post
    This is how I feel as well.

    I want the new regime to be excellent, but goddammit I've been enjoying the Superman line for a while now so we'll see where this all leads. Nevertheless, welcome aboard.
    Eh, it's the cycle right? We get some real quality stuff for a couple years, then DC decides to derail and ruin it all and give us a lot of awful crap for twice as long before going back and giving us something worth reading again, and on and on it goes.

    At least, that's how it's felt to me since the 00's or so. Let's hope that the new owners are breaking that cycle and the new editor isn't a sign of the downward spiral continuing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ascended View Post
    Eh, it's the cycle right? We get some real quality stuff for a couple years, then DC decides to derail and ruin it all and give us a lot of awful crap for twice as long before going back and giving us something worth reading again, and on and on it goes.

    At least, that's how it's felt to me since the 00's or so. Let's hope that the new owners are breaking that cycle and the new editor isn't a sign of the downward spiral continuing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ascended View Post
    Eh, it's the cycle right? We get some real quality stuff for a couple years, then DC decides to derail and ruin it all and give us a lot of awful crap for twice as long before going back and giving us something worth reading again, and on and on it goes.

    At least, that's how it's felt to me since the 00's or so. Let's hope that the new owners are breaking that cycle and the new editor isn't a sign of the downward spiral continuing.
    New guy has been on some of my all time favorite books and judging by the replies to his tweet that I could see, deeply loves Superman. Hope that leads to good books. But yeah I’m a little tired of the editorial musical chairs going on at DC.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Robanker View Post
    Chains exist to be broken, old friend.
    Truer words man, truer words....

    Since AT&T took over I can't say that I've been unhappy with the "S" stuff they've offered. Perhaps we are getting beyond that self-destructive cycle. Here's to hope!

    Quote Originally Posted by Vordan View Post
    New guy has been on some of my all time favorite books and judging by the replies to his tweet that I could see, deeply loves Superman. Hope that leads to good books. But yeah I’m a little tired of the editorial musical chairs going on at DC.
    That's a good sign. I know nothing of this new guy so I have no expectations. I just hope that this upswing in quality continues and the line doesn't implode again.
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    Good luck to Kaminsky to last more than his predecessors, lol:

    Mike Cotton Quits DC Comics After Getting Superman Group Editor Gig?

    As Andy Warhol allegedly said: "In the future, everyone will be Superman editor for 15 minutes."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Last Son of Krypton View Post
    Good luck to Kaminsky to last more than his predecessors, lol:

    Mike Cotton Quits DC Comics After Getting Superman Group Editor Gig?

    As Andy Warhol allegedly said: "In the future, everyone will be Superman editor for 15 minutes."
    Cotton joined AWA as an executive editor.

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    Wonder who he pissed off to get demoted from Bat-office to Super-office...

    Anyways... suppose there's any relation to prolific Marvel writer Len Kaminski?
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    Do we have any knowledge about what this editor likes in his Superman? What “style”, so to speak.

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