Inferno #3 Review/Spoilers

[Ursalink]

Humanity has never tried to coexist with mutants in the x-books. you get some but most don't it's usually the mutants who do so it's time for the humans to realize it's a lose lose situation and it's time to eat some crow and makes some friends. beyond that i don't get why so many want the status quo back when those are usually the main ones complaining about how bad humans are made to look in their mutant hate. go figure.

Humanity has tried to be reasonable with Mutants in the past, but the acts of Mutants blinded by their "superiority" (like Magneto) has caused too much damage in human society. Many humans have died at the hands of the Mutants. Some of them might deserve it, but many others were just innocent individuals trapped in the crossfire. Now, the Mutants dare to resurrect while the innocent humans they killed in the past remain dead. That's not something they are going to tolerate.

[Kingdom X]

Humanity has tried to be reasonable with Mutants in the past, but the acts of Mutants blinded by their "superiority" (like Magneto) has caused too much damage in human society. Many humans have died at the hands of the Mutants. Some of them might deserve it, but many others were just innocent individuals trapped in the crossfire. Now, the Mutants dare to resurrect while the innocent humans they killed in the past remain dead. That's not something they are going to tolerate.

“Dare to resurrect?” What does resurrecting the Genosha victims and the teenagers that died in terrorist attack post M-day have to do with the innocent humans that died? If you’re going to go the “not all humans” route you have to apply the same logic to mutants and not make blanket statements about them either.

[Lukmendes]

Or they could just figure out Xavier dream is the way and stop thinking they, the humans and machines always win and work together because we learn either way humanity loses. If machines take over and won humans sacrifice their humanity if the mutants go all out and win both baseline humans and robots lose everything. The only hope for humanity at that point is another creed birth but given the ratio it would be an outline at most.

Humans as a species would need to stop having so much pety pride for the dream to happen, so yeah, not happening lol.

Like I said, covers exaggerate or lie, while it's possible this is actually happening, still worth considering it doesn't.

Hell, Hellions#18's cover has an example of this, since it implied the entire team would go to the Pit, but it was only Orphan Maker and Nanny.

Oh well, time will tell lol.

[carmoc1234]

so here's a question about life 10A and 10B. in 10A the children of the vault emerge and there's a three way war between humans, mutants and the children, which results in a human mutant alliance to beat the children.

in 10B the mutants go into the vault, resulting in the children getting darwin and evolving faster then they were meant to.

is this something that would have happened in 10A or is this a change that exists because of orchis taking serafina?

[Habis]

so here's a question about life 10A and 10B. in 10A the children of the vault emerge and there's a three way war between humans, mutants and the children, which results in a human mutant alliance to beat the children.

in 10B the mutants go into the vault, resulting in the children getting darwin and evolving faster then they were meant to.

is this something that would have happened in 10A or is this a change that exists because of orchis taking serafina?

Probably the latter. Orchis didn't exist in 10A, so the X-Men didn"t encounter her.

Also, Orchis will probably try to hinder any potential human-mutant alliance against the Children of the Vault; Omega Sentinel probably hopes the mutants and the Children will destroy each other.

Humanity has never tried to coexist with mutants in the x-books. you get some but most don't it's usually the mutants who do so it's time for the humans to realize it's a lose lose situation and it's time to eat some crow and makes some friends. beyond that i don't get why so many want the status quo back when those are usually the main ones complaining about how bad humans are made to look in their mutant hate. go figure.

When you read other non x-books, it is difficult to find a hint of anti-mutant prejudice. Heroes aren't racist. Their friends and allies aren't racist. Even most villains aren't anti-mutant racists...

When you combine that impression with the fact that: 1.-Most of the worst things that happened to mutants (the Genoshan Genocide, Decimation, Legacy Virus, Morlock Massacre, the M-Pox...etc.) weren't caused by humans, 2.-Mutant villains have done or tried to do many horrible things to humans, 3.-Governments have rarely taken official action against mutants, and never on the level of trying to genocide them, like Apocalypse did to humans, and 4.-Heroes are often treated even worse than most mutants in non-mutant books...

Well, you can't shake the feeling that the impression the x-books try to give of humans being a prejudiced, bigoted, racist mass systematically oppressing and trying to wipe out the mutant race is exaggerated... I don't get the feeling that the Marvel Universe is divided into a human and a mutant factions trying to destroy each other...

It's like the mutants are telling the human characters "you are always oppressing us!" and the human characters are like "I have done what...?!".

It has been increasingly difficult to reconcile both sides of the Marvel Universe, the non-mutant books and the mutant books... In the mutant books they say all humans are monsters who are always trying to destroy them. In the non-mutant books you see that humans are mostly decent people...

[D.Z]

Are we gonna get to life 11?

[Rev9]

Humans as a species would need to stop having so much pety pride for the dream to happen, so yeah, not happening lol.



Like I said, covers exaggerate or lie, while it's possible this is actually happening, still worth considering it doesn't.

Hell, Hellions#18's cover has an example of this, since it implied the entire team would go to the Pit, but it was only Orphan Maker and Nanny.

Oh well, time will tell lol.

I can easily see Sinister being thrown into the pit at the end of Inferno 4, but there's a problem,sinister is one of a dozen clones like himself(the one on the QC is probably not Sinister 'prime' anyway) so although it may give Krakoa some comfort ,it means nothing as Sinister's hallmark is surviving through another clone/host/vessel ..the guy is s real virus! My main interest is why is he going to the pit in the first place? Is he making a Moira-Destiny-Mystique chimera? Knowing how he was onto Mystique wouldn't put it past him, after all we have the much touted 11 th life..what if we're seeing this all wrong? Maybe Sinister clones Moira for her 11th life(with a few surprise tweaks) and all the crazy repercussions that will cause..

[baumblume]

Mass manipulation? Omitting information? That's pretty much standard magneto Xavier.
The TRULY DANGEROUS people are the ones who want to change the world not only for themselves... but FOR EVERYONE ELSE IN IT TOO. There are two men who eat, drink, and breathe that way of thinking - Charles and Erik: both egotistic idealists and power-mad control-freaks trying to manipulate the futures of entire populations... enabled by a petty, malicious woman named Moira who could and would end people's entire realities out of petty spite for Destiny and Pyro. These are the true villains, enemies to mutantkind, humanity, and even existence itself.

they're committing murder-suicide of their entire species.

[Habis]

Are we gonna get to life 11?

I think Hickman's plan was to kill Moira at the end if the arc and reset to a new status quo, which would be Moira's 11th life... The current writers, however, may discard the reset and leave things as they are...

[Frobisher]

I think Hickman's plan was to kill Moira at the end if the arc and reset to a new status quo, which would be Moira's 11th life... The current writers, however, may discard the reset and leave things as they are...

There's no way that was the plan. They can't even clear Wanda and Franklin being mutants with editorial, never mind a line-wide reset a la the Ultimate universe.

[Habis]

There's no way that was the plan. They can't even clear Wanda and Franklin being mutants with editorial, never mind a line-wide reset a la the Ultimate universe.

Of course they could. Everything would be mostly the same, save for the bits they chose to change, which would be ignored.

For example, Xavier and Magneto wouldn't know that Moira was a mutant and wouldn't conspire behind the backs of the X-Men, there wouldn't be Resurrection Protocols or Planet Arakko and no villains in Krakoa.

It wouldn't be so different from what they did after Secret Wars II.

[Vulcansfire]

Just wanna say Hickman can write really good stuff. This issue was on another level. Can't wait for #4.

[Thundershot]

So.. who slaughtered all of the humans that Erik and Charles passed when they found Moira’s arm? If it was Raven and Irene, then they should go to the pit. Which they won’t because we’ve seen them in upcoming books. What if they freed Sabretooth and set him loose?

[carmoc1234]

So.. who slaughtered all of the humans that Erik and Charles passed when they found Moira’s arm? If it was Raven and Irene, then they should go to the pit. Which they won’t because we’ve seen them in upcoming books. What if they freed Sabretooth and set him loose?

because it was orchis agents the no killing humans rule is ignored.

[carmoc1234]

Of course they could. Everything would be mostly the same, save for the bits they chose to change, which would be ignored.

For example, Xavier and Magneto wouldn't know that Moira was a mutant and wouldn't conspire behind the backs of the X-Men, there wouldn't be Resurrection Protocols or Planet Arakko and no villains in Krakoa.

It wouldn't be so different from what they did after Secret Wars II.

well it would be very messy as there would be things that are just gone with a reset, like legion and proteus just would not have happened. onslaught would be gone as well i think. magnetos story after 60s would be different because this story implies his more heroic change was a result of moira. there are probably other things, but i cant think of them right now