Mutant on mutant crime and self defense on Krakoa.

[Chris0013]

Recent events have prompted thoughts on these issues. Shadow King in New Mutants, Empath in Hellions manipulating the OG Hellions and others, and going back to the creepy french twins in New Mutants altering Beak's memories of how his parents died.

Personally I consider all of these actions to be Assaults...no different than if someone swung an unprovoked punch or tried to zap someone with an energy beam

Who would the crimes be reported to? What punishments would be dealt out?

And what about if you defend yourself against them with lethal force? Say Empath comes into the bar and decides to use his powers to make someone give him his drink, food and seat because he wants it...but the person has a very strong will and realizes what is going on and raises his arm and burns Empath's head off with an energy blast?

What is the Krakoan government going to do??

[Reiko]

settle that shit in the fighting pits or stfu

[Habis]

Xavier and his disciples thought that mutants, being the superior species, would become cuddle loving hippies once away from the influence of the filthy flatscan apemen.

Magneto thought "whatever; we'll make shit as we go and let see what happens..."

[the illustrious mr. kenway]

I guess you would take it to the Captains or the Council and they could arbitrate it.

I figured some of the former X-men would be like the cops and keep the peace on Krakoa.

[Rift]

They fear Hellion. They know he would kick his ass. That's why most crimes are lowkey, or done when he's not around. He is the primary peacekeeper and things fall apart when he's not there.

[Outburstz]

Unless you are mass murdering or taking a shot at council members. Mutants have a handle your own business type of mindset. Go in the pits get a mark and be done

[Habis]

Unless you are mass murdering or taking a shot at council members. Mutants have a handle your own business type of mindset. Go in the pits get a mark and be done

They have children running around without parents or guardians, side by side with superpowered murderers and rapists... that's a bad combination. There should be some sort of police and legal system... but there isn't any.

Realistically speaking, Krakoa should have collapsed after the first two days...

[dragon1440]

Recent events have prompted thoughts on these issues. Shadow King in New Mutants, Empath in Hellions manipulating the OG Hellions and others, and going back to the creepy french twins in New Mutants altering Beak's memories of how his parents died.

Personally I consider all of these actions to be Assaults...no different than if someone swung an unprovoked punch or tried to zap someone with an energy beam

Who would the crimes be reported to? What punishments would be dealt out?

And what about if you defend yourself against them with lethal force? Say Empath comes into the bar and decides to use his powers to make someone give him his drink, food and seat because he wants it...but the person has a very strong will and realizes what is going on and raises his arm and burns Empath's head off with an energy blast?

What is the Krakoan government going to do??

Depends on the defendant. If the defendant is wh.. opps meant a pretty mutant vs a morlock mutant, they get away scott free.

[Vegeta]

The crime would be reported to the Quiet Council and the punishment is to stuff them down into the pit.

[Pumpkin King]

There are a lot of undefined laws on Krakoa. I'd assume that mutants causing each other harm, through things like murder, or physical or sexual assault, could be punished. I'd also assume that they must have a justice system with punishments less severe than the Pit, like maybe starting a fight gets you a month on Krakoan garbage duty. But none of it has really been defined. The whole premise of Hellions was a bunch of mutants that can't live peacefully on Krakoa, but haven't committed Pit-worthy offenses (yet), and the solution was put them all on a team. Is it just a big free-for-all? If another mutant attacks you, who do you report it to? One of the Captains?

I remember a story with Feral and Marrow getting into a knock-down, drag-out fight before eventually coming to understand and respect each other, and I don't think there were any consequences for the fight. Maybe the Council will ignore brawls if none of the mutants involved want to "press charges."

[Del torro]

There should be a police force made up of telepaths and telekinetics. Kind of like the force warriors in age of x.

Then thered be heavily regulated rules on power use (especially telepathy, since we have to watch the watch men)

There should no power zones and other stuff like that.

Like come on guys, this isn't Arrako, we're not savages

[Del torro]

Okay to be honest, I just want a telepath book.

Like there are 30+ of them on the island, they should have a monitoring system (like in the leaf village of naruto, where they rotate staff to telepathically monitor the barrier around the village to know when intruders come in)
Telepathy interrogation when permission has been granted for special cases.
Telekinetics for restraint and transport of criminals
Etc etc

[Sutekh]

Recent events have prompted thoughts on these issues. Shadow King in New Mutants, Empath in Hellions manipulating the OG Hellions and others, and going back to the creepy french twins in New Mutants altering Beak's memories of how his parents died.

Personally I consider all of these actions to be Assaults...no different than if someone swung an unprovoked punch or tried to zap someone with an energy beam

Who would the crimes be reported to? What punishments would be dealt out?

And what about if you defend yourself against them with lethal force? Say Empath comes into the bar and decides to use his powers to make someone give him his drink, food and seat because he wants it...but the person has a very strong will and realizes what is going on and raises his arm and burns Empath's head off with an energy blast?

What is the Krakoan government going to do??

It seems like Greycrow has carte blanche to murder Empath literally over and over again, so I'm not sure that Krakoa even *recognizes* mutant-on-mutant crime. Murdering *humans* is a big no-no, but killing other mutants is apparently cool, even, in some cases, encouraged, or done as a sport by young bored jaded mutants who want to pop their death-cherry.

There's also a huge amount of fuzzy area, not even explored, as to what sort of uses of mutant powers constitute crime. All sorts of things that are crimes *to humans* are pretty much how their powers work, for mutants like Stacy X or Daken or Wallflower or Empath, any of whom can roofie someone with their powers, or various shapechangers or illusionists who can appear as someone else and, by human standards, commit fraud, but also clairvoyants, precognitives, telepaths or astral projectors who could violate others privacy, in some cases, even unwillingly (many precognitives, for instance, don't *choose* what they are foreseeing, and it might be some private moments between others who didn't consent to be 'seen'). Is it a crime to violate someone's right to privacy when Krakoa doesn't even *have* privacy laws, and that's literally all some people's powers do?

Are they expected to walk around with a power inhibitor on because their sensory or mood-affecting power violates some *human* law or norm or standard?

There's a lot of stuff to be considered here. The beginning of Hellions asserted that Empath was all messed up because his power made him unable to create normal healthy emotional attachments, but that's entirely from a human perspective. Does it make sense for a post-human mutant, in a post-human mutant society, to be judged as to whether or not their behavior or emotional state is 'healthy' because it isn't like a normal humans? (It can certainly be labelled as *antisocial* and discouraged for *that* reason, but who's to say that his jerkitude isn't a completely 'normal' and appropriate reaction for someone with his powers? It makes no sense to judge him by the standards of *non-empathic humans.*)

(And yeah, technically he wasn't a mutant for over a decade, and *did* learn to form emotional connections and stuff before puberty hit and his X-gene turned on, and Emma Frost already did this plot with him decades ago and it was determined that he's not some woobie who is a victim of his own powers, but an actual jerk who needed a good smack on the bottom to learn to stop manipulating people, but hey, he wasn't blonde or blue-eyed or quite so melanin-adjacent back then either... Welcome to Retkoa.)

[Outburstz]

They have children running around without parents or guardians, side by side with superpowered murderers and rapists... that's a bad combination. There should be some sort of police and legal system... but there isn't any.

Realistically speaking, Krakoa should have collapsed after the first two days...

There are telepaths all around the island that can link up with everyone on the island. They are not going to get away with doing those types of things. You are just looking for things to hate about the era.

[Sutekh]

Okay to be honest, I just want a telepath book.

I'd love to see some pro-active stuff, like a team of telepaths (Mentat, Fixx and Tangerine?), cyberkinetics (Trinary, Milan and Network?) and peeps with heightened brainpower (like Sage and Forge) link up and just copy all of the DNA information from Sinister's datastores, so that Krakoa just flat out no longer needs Sinister *for anything* and then shoves his ass in the pit.

Any security measures Sinister could have dreamt up for his private DNA files, Forge's intuition and Sage's computer mind, as well as the cyberkinetics computer/machine control, could just steamroller through, and the linked telepaths could distribute it to a dozen secure caches around the world (and Mars, Limbo, Otherworld, Liveworld, etc.). It'd be over possibly before he even knew his archives were under threat.

And that's just one of a dozen things the telepaths could be doing. I'd also like to see psi-jammer technology be a little less of an 'I win' button that renders even Omega telepaths useless.

It would be great to see someone brag about his telepathic jammer against a lower tier telepath like Birdy or Anna-Marie Cortez, only to have someone like Jean just stare at him and smoke begin to come from his helmet as the telepathy jammer circuits burn out and fail one by one, and Jean say, "Aw, that's cute. Commercial grade psi-jammers, against *ME.* That's like wearing rubber-soled shoes and expecting to shrug off a lightning bolt..."