Avengers/X-Men event teased for FCBD 2022

[FFJamie94]

If anything, I’m kind of hoping this deals with the rift between mutantdom and the rest of the Human Population. I feel since HOXPOX, we’ve seen some kind of small tension brewing, with the X-Men separating themselves from the wider MU. While they’ve been around for major events (KIB, Empyre, Last Annihilation, Devil’s Reign etc), they’ve just been doing their own thing. Hopefully, this event will address that. I’m not hoping for AVX 2 (that was just be meh), but I’m hoping for something with a lot more plot and ideas.

[Digifiend]

Marvel's gimmick seems to be rehashing, or at least borrowing the names, of old events.

Aaron's got Heroes Reborn and Avengers Forever and WWSH.
Pak did Atlantis Attacks.
Hickman had Infinity and Secret Wars.
Forgot who did Civil War II and Last Annihilation.

Bendis and Al Ewing respectively.

[Castle]

Featuring stories by an all-star lineup of creators including writers Kieron Gillen and Gerry Duggan and artists Dustin Weaver and Matteo Lolli, FREE COMIC BOOK DAY: AVENGERS/X-MEN #1 will lay the groundwork for an event that will take the Marvel Universe by storm in 2022 and forever change the relationship between Earth’s Mightiest Heroes and mutantkind.

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Sigh Marvel dont know when to stop this. they need to stop trying to make avengers and xmen happen and be a thing. it is not a thing.

anytime xmen gets dragged into avengers stuff, it dumbs the xmen universe down. xmen so far in the last 2-3 years has been enjoying their Krakoa stuff and part of that was because it went back to very self contained xmen mythology. the constant crossover gimmick is so over. it has been over for a long time.

[Castle]

Marvel's gimmick seems to be rehashing, or at least borrowing the names, of old events.

Aaron's got Heroes Reborn and Avengers Forever and WWSH.
Pak did Atlantis Attacks.
Hickman had Infinity and Secret Wars.
Forgot who did Civil War II and Last Annihilation.


Who knows what is next.

Yep. The gimmick also seem to be rehashing stories. Another AvX. Like the first one, was not bad enough. There really should not really be any other main Avengers/X-men counter after House of M.

[Nomads1]

What villains? At this point either they are reformed, or such blatant incompetents that they are literally self defeating, or worst so bland and forgettable that you won't notice that the heroes are fighting them. 3xcpetions are the usual suspects who come again and again and again and again and again and again. With the same shtick.

That one problem that in these decade had not been solved.

Hmmm, Let's see. You have the big guns (Doom, Red Skull, Kang, Thanos, Ultron, Galactus, etc...) ,which, as you say, are used endlessly, which sort of dilutes a lot their intensity. There are some second tier (and I say this in the nicest way possible) which are often on the fence in terms of being good or bad guys (and the X-Universe is the greatest offender here, always treating ambiguously even their worst villains such as Magneto, Apocalypse, Mr. Sinister, Sabretooth, Mystique, etc...), such as Sandman, Absorbing Man, Mole Man, etc...
And then you have some old favorites that haven't been treated with respect in a long time, such as Count Nefaria, The Friends of Humanity and the Right, Moses Magnum, The Reavers, The High Evolutionary, Immortus, Baron Zemo and the Masters of Evil, The Master of the World, the Zodiac Cartel (this is an idea with SO much potential, IMHO, I can't believe it was never set as it deserved), the Brotherhood (and the Sisterhood) of the Badoon, the Adaptoid, etc..
And others who had potential but never were fully developed and should get another chance such as Templar and his Avatars, Pagan (both connected t the Triune Undestanding, but who might alo work as individual threats), The Exemplars (yeah, I'm a HUGE fan of the Busiek run in Avengers), Terminatrix and the Anachronauts, The Rune, the Axi-Tun, the Hangman and his Lethal Legion, Thane Ector and The Brethern, Occulus, etc...
So, IMHO, it's not a lack of raw material that afflcts the MU, it's lack of vision, of creativity.

Peace

[FFJamie94]

Marvel's gimmick seems to be rehashing, or at least borrowing the names, of old events.

Aaron's got Heroes Reborn and Avengers Forever and WWSH.
Pak did Atlantis Attacks.
Hickman had Infinity and Secret Wars.
Forgot who did Civil War II and Last Annihilation.


Who knows what is next.

The, Civil War 2 was just a marketing campaign for the CW Movie. As much as I’m not a fan of modern Bendis, I have a hard time faulting him for it’s short givings. It’s a bad event, but it was improved with Secret Empire in my opinion.

Last Annihilation wasn’t really an event in the traditional sense. It was really just an Ewing centric story with a couple one-shots. It was also pretty damn good… and no one else read it.

[Frontier]

The, Civil War 2 was just a marketing campaign for the CW Movie. As much as I’m not a fan of modern Bendis, I have a hard time faulting him for it’s short givings. It’s a bad event, but it was improved with Secret Empire in my opinion.

I don't think that makes the actual writing of that event any less of an issue.

[Huntsman Spider]

If anything, I’m kind of hoping this deals with the rift between mutantdom and the rest of the Human Population. I feel since HOXPOX, we’ve seen some kind of small tension brewing, with the X-Men separating themselves from the wider MU. While they’ve been around for major events (KIB, Empyre, Last Annihilation, Devil’s Reign etc), they’ve just been doing their own thing. Hopefully, this event will address that. I’m not hoping for AVX 2 (that was just be meh), but I’m hoping for something with a lot more plot and ideas.

I think that rift has sadly been there for years already, only it's more pronounced because instead of the usual status quo of X-Men/mutants reaching out to humanity in a spirit of kinship and getting their hand violently slapped away, if not sliced off, every time by humanity as a whole, the mutants' idea of outreach comes with the caveat that, "We're not asking anymore. We're telling you. This is simply how things will be from now on."

[PhoenixThanos]

The human population has always mistrusted and feared mutants, now that mutants are more prominant than ever before that fear, mistrust and even hatred will only escalate.

[Huntsman Spider]

The human population has always mistrusted and feared mutants, now that mutants are more prominant than ever before that fear, mistrust and even hatred will only escalate.

Pretty much this. They have a nation-state that has global standing in the United Nations and major impact on Earth's geopolitics, plus humanity as a whole by the proverbial stones thanks to the Krakoan medicines designed to cure human ailments both physical and mental and extend human lifespans. As we've already seen throughout the last couple of years or so, that isn't something humankind is necessarily going to take lying down, per the actions of organized groups like Orchis, Xeno, and the Verendi.

[Iron Maiden]

My hunch is that the mutant hay days are going to be ending soon and this event may have that purpose as its goal.

[Huntsman Spider]

My hunch is that the mutant hay days are going to be ending soon and this event may have that purpose as its goal.

It's possible, though I'm still hoping this doesn't turn into a setup for AvX II.

[king of hybrids]

My hunch is that the mutant hay days are going to be ending soon and this event may have that purpose as its goal.

I would rather not spend another decade hearing how the woes of mutantdom are the fault of everyone else in the Marvel universe as it was with Genosha and M-Day

The X-books can plunge themselves into a nightmare from which there is no awakening themselves this time

[Jabare]

oh I hope the characters I like stay far away from this event

[GenericUsername]

oh I hope the characters I like stay far away from this event

Very much the same.