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    This does look it could be good, or at least what I'm looking for for now, a lighter more classic piece.
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    Grant Morrison: “Adults...struggle desperately with fiction, demanding constantly that it conform to the rules of everyday life. Adults foolishly demand to know how Superman can possibly fly, or how Batman can possibly run a multibillion-dollar business empire during the day and fight crime at night, when the answer is obvious even to the smallest child: because it's not real.”

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    Just finished reading it. A very brisk pace, but alas this is more a Batman, Robin, and Doom Patrol story with Superman as an obstacle to be overcome, got confused just a bit by the lengthy flashback in the middle, and I don't think it was honestly needed other than for the 'present day' to call back on a Bat/Supes bromance moment later, I think Waid went with it as a means of giving Clark something heroic to do while the rest of the issue focused on him rampaging through Metropolis, needing to be stopped by Batman.

    Lois doesn't get much else to do other than worry about Superman, and Jimmy just reacts to whatever's going on with him also.

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    Finished the issue. Gorgeous art, Mora is probably tied with Jimenez for best artist DC has. Writing wise if you’re someone who hasn’t enjoyed anything from Rebirth onward, or if you’re someone who really loved the Vendetti Man of Tomorrow run, then this will appeal to you. It’s solid but unambitious. Waid is basically trying to tell the Superman stories he wanted to tell back when he was pitching Superman 2000, only now with Batman. Its good enough for me to keep reading and see where Waid goes, but it doesn’t blow me away.

    For those who were irritated by Waid having Batman save Superman, Waid throws in a flashback where Superman saved Batman to even things out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hypo View Post
    Batman/Superman: World’s Finest #1 Preview
    Writer: Mark Waid
    Artist: Dan Mora

    Its sucks batman has more villians in this cover than supes

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vordan View Post
    if you’re someone who hasn’t enjoyed anything from Rebirth onward, or if you’re someone who really loved the Vendetti Man of Tomorrow run, then this will appeal to you..
    Dude, this is the most 'Rebirth' thing I've read in a while. In fact, this is exactly the sort of thing they should have published while Rebirth was going, just the same as when Man of Tomorrow was published at the height of Bendis' stupidity.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Matt Rat View Post
    Dude, this is the most 'Rebirth' thing I've read in a while. In fact, this is exactly the sort of thing they should have published while Rebirth was going, just the same as when Man of Tomorrow was published at the height of Bendis' stupidity.
    I suppose it’s Rebirth-esque in that it’s very much a throwback, but I was thinking more in terms of a Superbook that appealed to people who don’t enjoy Superman as a dad or being married to Lois.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vordan View Post
    I suppose it’s Rebirth-esque in that it’s very much a throwback, but I was thinking more in terms of a Superbook that appealed to people who don’t enjoy Superman as a dad or being married to Lois.
    Ah, I see. Carry on then.

    (Although to be nitpicky, Man of Tomorrow still had him married to Lois, just they didn't have Jon)

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    The flashback with Clark and Bruce dealing with Penguin clearly should have been moved to the start of the issue. It comes across as a completely random addition to, at best, make up for the rest of the issue being "Batman has to stop an out-of-control Superman", instead of the start of the World's Finest relationship it could have been (and almost definitely was intended as). Otherwise, issue is exactly what I thought this would be as soon as the first solicit and preview dropped. I'll come back for the third issue since that one sounds cool.

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    This is straight up nostalgia porn in the same way that Superman '78 was. And it is glorious.

    My only quibbles would be Robin's dialogue reads like it was written by a guy in his 50s desperately trying too hard to sound hip and my inner continuity nerd is confused as to when this is all supposed to be taking place. The OG Doom Patrol died at the end of the Silver Age but this seems to be taking place solidly in the Bronze Age. I suppose we can handwave it all away as a Hypertime tributary in which they died later on or something.

    Otherwise, this is very much comfort food for fans who want some classic DCU World's Finest with some truly spectacular art.

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    Quote Originally Posted by manwhohaseverything View Post
    Jimmy is.And i completely agree.Jimmy and robin were created for being point of view for children.Kara was created on a whim.
    I wouldn't say Kara was created on a whim, but the precedent of a male superhero having female superhero named after them has been around since the very beginning. Kara just falls in line with that. There was a prior comic where they had a "Supergirl" who I believe was Lois.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vordan View Post
    The art for Dark Crisis does depict her as the equivalent to Dick Robin for Supes which to be fair is historically true

    Is it historically true? Pre-Crisis, while Kara and Clark have had some adventures together, she was almost always doing her own thing. Not to mention, she's hardly appeared in Superman-related media, aside from the DCAU (who wasn't even his cousin) While in almost every Batman-related media (besides the Nolan films and Reeves film), he's had Robin. Clark is historically a solo superhero with the occasional partner here and there. In fact, I'll say Kara has always been doing her own stuff, since the very beginning. I mean, Superman did dump her off at an orphanage.
    So, I can't say it's historically true. Personally, I think Jimmy is more Superman's Dick.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vordan View Post
    Snyder Cultists will be seething at that shade he gives Man of Steel...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Matt Rat View Post
    Snyder Cultists will be seething at that shade he gives Man of Steel...
    I died laughing at that, he clearly hasn’t changed his opinion on the DCEU. I did like how his definition of what Superman is about focused on compassion rather than hope.
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