Storm and Thor - What's the Difference???

[Stormy]

People are running away from the topic, it wasn't to say who is the more powerful character, or to have a vs between the two, but rather, who would have a better Weather Manipulation, lol, to say that Thor has the strength to breaking planets, or his being a "real" god, that only makes the subject more exhausting, and that is not the purpose of this topic.

[Doom'nGloom]

Is Thor considered a weather manipulator? The question may sound dumb but I don't consider him as such but I'm open to someone more knowledgeable educate me on this. It seems to me whenever Thor creates a storm or hurricane he's exerting his power over nature unlike Storm who is more in tune with nature. This may explain why Thor needed Storm's help in their latest team up. Whatever weather condition he might have created no matter how powerful would be temporary since nature would revert to its former state once he stopped focusing his power. Storm on the other hand can create weather conditions which can sustain themselves in the long run since she works within the parameters of nature instead of bypassing them. I'm not gonna get into who is god and who isn't since marvel itself advertized the story as a team up of "the god of thunder" and "weather goddess".

[Rosa Snarks]

We're not trolling you. We're laughing at you. and so is Marvel.

Its giving jobless bestie. Don't do that ☹

[Spiderfan001]

Is Thor considered a weather manipulator? The question may sound dumb but I don't consider him as such but I'm open to someone more knowledgeable educate me on this. It seems to me whenever Thor creates a storm or hurricane he's exerting his power over nature unlike Storm who is more in tune with nature. This may explain why Thor needed Storm's help in their latest team up. Whatever weather condition he might have created no matter how powerful would be temporary since nature would revert to its former state once he stopped focusing his power. Storm on the other hand can create weather conditions which can sustain themselves in the long run since she works within the parameters of nature instead of bypassing them. I'm not gonna get into who is god and who isn't since marvel itself advertized the story as a team up of "the god of thunder" and "weather goddess".

Even though most of his feats are about power an fighting he does can also manipulate weather.Already posted scans of him transmuting elements and manipulating solar radiation

Here he gathers the scattered atmosphere of a destroyed planet

[Stormy]

Even though most of his feats are about power an fighting he does can also manipulate weather.Already posted scans of him transmuting elements and manipulating solar radiation

Here he gathers the scattered atmosphere of a destroyed planet

I may be putting a rope around my neck to question this, but why is Thor most often portrayed as dependent on the Hammer? Yes, I know Thor in mythology he has Mjolnir, where he became their brand, but even in the movies, after Ragnarok I thought they would further explore their powers without the hammer, just like when Jane became the mighty Thor, in the comics.

[Doom'nGloom]

Even though most of his feats are about power an fighting he does can also manipulate weather.Already posted scans of him transmuting elements and manipulating solar radiation

Here he gathers the scattered atmosphere of a destroyed planet

My question was more "is he a weather manipulator if he manipulates weather through magic rather than natural means" though it doesn't make much difference I guess. My bad.

[Reigna]

Its giving jobless bestie. Don't do that ☹

Ikr! It's giving pathetic, also someone shout tell them that cannon means that **** is from marvel themselves. But hey what do I know I am just a storm fan *DUH*

[Spiderfan001]

I may be putting a rope around my neck to question this, but why is Thor most often portrayed as dependent on the Hammer? Yes, I know Thor in mythology he has Mjolnir, where he became their brand, but even in the movies, after Ragnarok I thought they would further explore their powers without the hammer, just like when Jane became the mighty Thor, in the comics.

My guess it's because it's iconic part of his character, like Spider-man w/ his web shooters or Cap w/ his shield.
Writers, specially relatively early on would take those away to higher stakes and make it seem like they can't fight competently w/out them w/ showing showing otherwise

My question was more "is he a weather manipulator if he manipulates weather through magic rather than natural means" though it doesn't make much difference I guess. My bad.

Oh that makes sense.He usually does break nature via his "magic" rather than manip it, but he can use it to manipulate it as well but it's rare so not part of his fighting style.

No problem!You have a point IMO

[Reigna]

Is Thor considered a weather manipulator? The question may sound dumb but I don't consider him as such but I'm open to someone more knowledgeable educate me on this. It seems to me whenever Thor creates a storm or hurricane he's exerting his power over nature unlike Storm who is more in tune with nature. This may explain why Thor needed Storm's help in their latest team up. Whatever weather condition he might have created no matter how powerful would be temporary since nature would revert to its former state once he stopped focusing his power. Storm on the other hand can create weather conditions which can sustain themselves in the long run since she works within the parameters of nature instead of bypassing them. I'm not gonna get into who is god and who isn't since marvel itself advertized the story as a team up of "the god of thunder" and "weather goddess".

Nope he doesn't. He is more of manifestation of weather specifically thunderstorms. Thor doesn't manipulate the pre existing natural patterns of the world he creates his own hence why he can create huge storms over entire continents without really worrying about the global concequence. This is also why he can make it rain where there is no weather. His hammer gives him the power of the thunderstorm not all weather. This means he can manifest wind, lightning and thunder (his faves) and rain. But a thunderstorm also has energy and creates magnetic fields and antimatter. And he uses his hammer to absorb these energies around to create powerful blasts or chanel his divine energies to create a god blast.
Aside that he has super speed strength and all that jazz. His elemental abilities to be frank though impressive in raw power are kinda bland in terms of sheer versatility when compared to storm who actually has power over all forms of "weather" (it is in quotes because basically she can control the weather and any elemental force that has something to do with the weather).

Now Thor's power is not sustainable he can magic a storm wherever but in the end that **** would fade out if he is not there to power it up, because in the end he conjured it up with magic. Storm on the other hand can directly manipulate and now even Create self suatainable atmospheres and a perpetual self sustaining light source for a whole planet from nothing. She can directly manipulate the elemental energies of an artificial dimensions to Create storms made of nanobots and can even manipulate glass and calcium bones on other planets. The possibilities and the versatility to her power is literally endless. In a new environment storm would get new abilities because her power adapts.
In the right setting storm can control almost if not any element and incorporate it to Create whole new kinds of weather phenomena. For example using magnetic field to Create a lava eruption or using glass fragments in the atmosphere to create lasers. The limit on how she can use her abilities are literally her own imagination. Like using her powers to create a sound proof room. I mean up until last week the belief that storm could create a self sustaining light source for a planet to act as a sun was just theory, till she did it. Even she doesn't know what she is truly capable of.

Thor is divine prestidigitation powered mainly by a sentient god thunderstorm. And Storm is incalculable power and control over the very forces of nature. They are not the same. The later is superior to the other, but the former has very good advantages especially for combat scenarios.

[Reigna]

I may be putting a rope around my neck to question this, but why is Thor most often portrayed as dependent on the Hammer? Yes, I know Thor in mythology he has Mjolnir, where he became their brand, but even in the movies, after Ragnarok I thought they would further explore their powers without the hammer, just like when Jane became the mighty Thor, in the comics.

Because the power actually is from the hammer. I remember once they said he used the hammer to chanel his innate elemental abilities but that was retconned when the god tempest was created. I for one have never seen or read him manipulating the elements without his hammer. Even when using gaea's blessing when he was her son he still used the hammer.

[Doom'nGloom]

Nope he doesn't. He is more of manifestation of weather specifically thunderstorms. Thor doesn't manipulate the pre existing natural patterns of the world he creates his own hence why he can create huge storms over entire continents without really worrying about the global concequence. This is also why he can make it rain where there is no weather. His hammer gives him the power of the thunderstorm not all weather. This means he can manifest wind, lightning and thunder (his faves) and rain. But a thunderstorm also has energy and creates magnetic fields and antimatter. And he uses his hammer to absorb these energies around to create powerful blasts or chanel his divine energies to create a god blast.
Aside that he has super speed strength and all that jazz. His elemental abilities to be frank though impressive in raw power are kinda bland in terms of sheer versatility when compared to storm who actually has power over all forms of "weather" (it is in quotes because basically she can control the weather and any elemental force that has something to do with the weather).

Now Thor's power is not sustainable he can magic a storm wherever but in the end that **** would fade out if he is not there to power it up, because in the end he conjured it up with magic. Storm on the other hand can directly manipulate and now even Create self suatainable atmospheres and a perpetual self sustaining light source for a whole planet from nothing. She can directly manipulate the elemental energies of an artificial dimensions to Create storms made of nanobots and can even manipulate glass and calcium bones on other planets. The possibilities and the versatility to her power is literally endless. In a new environment storm would get new abilities because her power adapts.
In the right setting storm can control almost if not any element and incorporate it to Create whole new kinds of weather phenomena. For example using magnetic field to Create a lava eruption or using glass fragments in the atmosphere to create lasers. The limit on how she can use her abilities are literally her own imagination. Like using her powers to create a sound proof room. I mean up until last week the belief that storm could create a self sustaining light source for a planet to act as a sun was just theory, till she did it. Even she doesn't know what she is truly capable of.

Thor is divine prestidigitation powered mainly by a sentient god thunderstorm. And Storm is incalculable power and control over the very forces of nature. They are not the same. The later is superior to the other, but the former has very good advantages especially for combat scenarios.

In terms of who can muster a planet wide storm quicker or in general cause destruction quicker I think Thor has it since he can magic his way there but yeah Storm is really versatile especially creating an atmosthere and a small star last week. It also means she can contain all the heat and pressure in that small volume until she chucks it into the sky.

[Reigna]

People are running away from the topic, it wasn't to say who is the more powerful character, or to have a vs between the two, but rather, who would have a better Weather Manipulation, lol, to say that Thor has the strength to breaking planets, or his being a "real" god, that only makes the subject more exhausting, and that is not the purpose of this topic.

The better weather manipulator is storm. And I am not being sarcastic when I say it is not even remotely close.

[Doctor Know]

Seeing this thread and the first thing I thought of was that comic where Thor and Storm went on a date.

Marvel Adventures: The Avengers #29

[Reigna]

In terms of who can muster a planet wide storm quicker or in general cause destruction quicker I think Thor has it since he can magic his way there but yeah Storm is really versatile especially creating an atmosthere and a small star last week. It also means she can contain all the heat and pressure in that small volume until she chucks it into the sky.

Actually that depends on her mood remember Storm's abilities react faster than a conscious thought. There was this one time where she was grieving wolverine and was rushed of the planet into orbit because she would have destroyed the planet but then yelled and immediately covered the entire planet in auroras instantaneously.
The whole working with nature thing is a perogative of storm not a necessity. But unlike Thor yes she has to work with the elements when doing things on a grander scale so as to not upset the balance of nature. Thor on the other hand can just conjure it all on a fly then erase it. Because well ...magic.

Yeah she can the sheer amount of heat and pressure needed for that is insane. The versatility is really there just hoping that the xoffice takes notes from Ewing and Erica to explore the versatility of her powers not just flashy lightning. I remember a skrull once had storm's powers and when facing gladiator told him that she could manipulate solar winds so precisely that she could pull specific wavelengths which would hurt him. And she did.

[Spiderfan001]

In terms of who can muster a planet wide storm quicker or in general cause destruction quicker I think Thor has it since he can magic his way there but yeah Storm is really versatile especially creating an atmosthere and a small star last week. It also means she can contain all the heat and pressure in that small volume until she chucks it into the sky.

Thor easy, his Storms are much more powerful and destructive and quicker at that and it's not even close.

Seeing this thread and the first thing I thought of was that comic where Thor and Storm went on a date.

Marvel Adventures: The Avengers #29

Same, ca't remember if it's canon.Prob. not

Also The Spider-man Logan part of this w/ the troll bit was hilarious