Well the new continuity implies that Susan meets Reed, Ben and Victor in college so they already sorted that out.
Well the new continuity implies that Susan meets Reed, Ben and Victor in college so they already sorted that out.
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There was the time when Abraxas was on the loose and causing havok with reality. He placed members of the Fantastic Four in different versions of themselves in the multiverse. In FF #47 vol. 3 Sue ended up switching bodies with a version of herself that became an MD. But she does use her powers to see the broken bone. I wonder if she could have picked up some first aid skills from her Dad
Unless I've missed a retcon, the main universe still operates under high school Sue meeting college Reed who lived across the street (sometimes, based on the story, the same house). All while the artists try to veer closer together in their ages unlike the...little bit uncomfortable...age difference Byrne's art demonstrated.
I don't like Matt Fraction's retcon so I prefer to ignore it. I don't see anything wrong with the age difference between Sue and Reed and I don't see what the problem is
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Sue barely gets any stories about her which is why her history has some information missing and why she lacks goals outside of the family. Exploring how she handled having to raise her brother from young age and how she felt about it could do a lot for her character. We rarely get the chance to really explore Sue's thoughts and feelings outside of reacting to something Reed does.
Giving her career aspirations is an easy thing to do. It's one of the very few retcons that would benefit the character as well as the team and is well overdue. This run alone has done worse retcons and multiple of them....
All it would take is a writer who actually cares to develop her instead of doing yet another breakdown of Reed vs Doom for the millionth time
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The problem was self evident when portrayed the way Byrne portrayed it as them having met when she was 12. Lee never made so specific a "first meeting" depiction. Fraction's retcon adjusted it to high school Sue meets college Reed going for a 3rd Doctorate and it clears away an entirely unnecessarily young first encounter portion of the collage Byrne created.
That was so Victor...
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I have not posted here in many moons. I wonder what all these huge ramifications will be when the current FF arc ends? Other than the introduction of Reed's long lost sister, they are keeping us in the dark. Unless certain heroes and foes die, perhaps the changes will be some Ultimate Marvel characters coming into the Marvel Universe?
I, based only on anecdotal evidence, believe the Helmsman is:
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The Collector
That would be very interesting. Has more continuity possibly.
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Interesting. I have a couple others but maybe I should look back on more of the appearances of the Helmsman.
I think going with a legacy character from Marvel's more distant past is probably a good choice. Slott's "finale" seems to be rife things from the Silver Age, like the planet that the Watchers gave great powers to but became corrupted by them.
Some other possibilities:
The Stranger
Abraxas (joking, but who knows?)
an iteration of Kang. Marvel's been having him pop up all other the place since the Loki series.
Long shot: The Prime Mover. I lost track of what happened to it. but I think the reveal with be some humanoid creature and not a machine.
I don't think Slott's planned on who was behind the mask. His lack of detail as seen with whatever Protocol Zero was shows he's doing some glossing over to keep plot moving fairly quickly. The ignoring by Doom to the Helmsman's unmasking was, to me, a sign that Doom knew who it was and further humiliated them by further lessening their importance. This is not to say that some future writer might not take the character again, but the Helmsman here struck me as someone who seemed playing out of their league.
I’ll don the mask and wear the cape
If I am super, how can I wait?
I don’t believe for a second that Slott has this dull overused story planned for 15 years.
If he did, then he’s even worse than I thought.
It’s a nothing story that’ll be forgotten in a year and doesn't surprise me how it wasn’t used as a big event, they should have just used the FF in judgement Day instead.