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    Lots of other stans crying not realizing that in the battle of wills, Storm has only few contenders. Plus, her sheer experience puts her at the advantage.

    Let me know when someone can host the Eternity momentarily, then we can talk.

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    Quote Originally Posted by butterflykyss View Post
    lolol I think they will definitely go at it again. Gabriel's conversation with Brand seem to indicate that. He wasn't at his full potential and using his abilities on a surface level. also brand trying to get him on the ring and getting the arrakkii people to look at him how they do ororo seems to indicate they will clash again.

    also I did get adversary 2.0 as well in regards to how fast it ended when ororo was doin her thing. I mentioned this previously but I truly believe there is a shift in demonstrating how powerful she is and this has seemingly been happening both within and outside the xbooks. Having her struggle I guess would be exciting such as she did in King in Black would be nice but having her dispatch opponents quickly sends the message home distinctly that she is the Omega's omega.

    Back to brand and Gabriel and Ororo's power levels, sure Gabriel acknowledged he was just using his shell but Brand also mentioned how she underestimated storm abilities. if Brand thinks she has seen storm full power then I think she will be gravely mistaken.

    and you don't have to shut up and be happy you better say how you feel.
    Honestly I see it going like this. Round obviously went to Storm. Round 2 goes to Vulcan/Brand. And Round 3 going to HADARI YAO.

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    The only thing that would make today's Storm vs Vulcan moment better is if we had Claremontian level narration of their battle of wills.

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    I think the only thing preventing Storm from being possessed by an entity like Phoenix is that her will is so powerful that it wouldn’t be able to control her. I mean she was able to host Eternity, Phoenix doesn’t stand a chance.but the reason her spirit is so strong is because she is a Goddess herself. She has so much untapped potential that is only hindered by her will.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Damien View Post
    The only thing that would make today's Storm vs Vulcan moment better is if we had Claremontian level narration of their battle of wills.
    OH! Yes! Claremont was SO good an Internal Thoughts and Narration.

    Damn too bad that would have been great.

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    Storm did so much in such a little space of time. So many feats here. First, did anyone else notice she stopped a full forward charging Vulcan by grabbing him by the throat! This seemed to be a feat of strength, perhaps enhanced by her energy manipulating abilities, but outside of the chokehold, there didn't seem to be any other force at play. Could this suggest like a telekinetic, she is now using energies to enhance her own strength? Secondly, she completely subdued and wrestled control of all of the energy that Vulcan was using. This isn't surprising if one looks at how she once wrestled control away from Trion. Finally, she used this energy to technically fry Vulcan from the inside out, once again demonstrating her fine control over said energy by attacking opponents internally. This is before we even get to her indomitable will and energy perception. I also feel like there was a nod to the Hadari Yao as it was established that when Storm showed up the Arraki were inspired and believed in her potentially even fueling her strength on top of it. I only add this because that was one issue that Brand had and talked about with Vulcan afterward. The biggest question I have here now is....did she just open up a debate for being an Omega Energy Manipulator? The only reason I ask is because of the definition of what it means to be Omega in that category type. Or was this a demonstration of skill and will power. The end panel with Vulcan left that open for debate in my opinion by suggesting that Vulcan has not yet come close to reaching his potential. Like Iceman before, perhaps Vulcan lacks creativity and true skill with his potential as an energy manipulator and Storm, much like with Iceman, has mastered these forces and could even perhaps help Vulcan to unlock some of the control and imagination he lacks. (Which is kind of scary given Vulcan's past feats as well). However, with Storm's abilities to see Energy and manipulate them as weather to the point of wrestling control from other seemingly more powerful forces, would this not lend the argument that she is in fact the Omega in Energy manipulation. Or does perhaps the description of Weather Manipulator in fact trump all other energy manipulation as maybe most natural forces are involved in or demonstrated by the ability to manipulate the energies that bring about weather phenomena. I found her words I am Mother and Vulcan describing himself as Son somewhat metaphorical in that perhaps Storm represents the "origins" of all said energies. For example, Magneto cannot control the weather but in controlling the weather storm does in fact manipulate certain electromagnetic forces. Same with Iceman and cold. Her versatility gives her insight into all forms of energy manipulation even if she may not be the head honcho in that category (or perhaps she is, just due to classification she is labeled weather manipulator). It reminds me of the Emma Frost vs Rachel debate in regards to telepathy. So much richness here. Definitely another pure display of respect for Storm's power here. I must say it's thrilling to read a story where a black female hero is respected and represented so powerfully like any other premiere white male hero would be. Storm is finally truly a verified force and nothing to play with.

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    To this day, some people still call Storm an unbeatable Mary Sue and think it's boring.

    I would say they are really boring, repeating the same arguments forever.
    Al Ewing made Storm great again! Storm greatest challenge might not be a matter of destruction, but creation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by StormBorn06 View Post
    To this day, some people still call Storm an unbeatable Mary Sue and think it's boring.

    I would say they are really boring, repeating the same arguments forever.
    WHO SAID THAT!!

    Show him unto me


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    Quote Originally Posted by Cyclone_Ablaze View Post
    WHO SAID THAT!!

    Show him unto me

    You can find them on Reddit, Twitter, and many other places.
    Al Ewing made Storm great again! Storm greatest challenge might not be a matter of destruction, but creation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sdawg View Post
    Storm did so much in such a little space of time. So many feats here. First, did anyone else notice she stopped a full forward charging Vulcan by grabbing him by the throat! This seemed to be a feat of strength, perhaps enhanced by her energy manipulating abilities, but outside of the chokehold, there didn't seem to be any other force at play. Could this suggest like a telekinetic, she is now using energies to enhance her own strength? Secondly, she completely subdued and wrestled control of all of the energy that Vulcan was using. This isn't surprising if one looks at how she once wrestled control away from Trion. Finally, she used this energy to technically fry Vulcan from the inside out, once again demonstrating her fine control over said energy by attacking opponents internally. This is before we even get to her indomitable will and energy perception. I also feel like there was a nod to the Hadari Yao as it was established that when Storm showed up the Arraki were inspired and believed in her potentially even fueling her strength on top of it. I only add this because that was one issue that Brand had and talked about with Vulcan afterward. The biggest question I have here now is....did she just open up a debate for being an Omega Energy Manipulator? The only reason I ask is because of the definition of what it means to be Omega in that category type. Or was this a demonstration of skill and will power. The end panel with Vulcan left that open for debate in my opinion by suggesting that Vulcan has not yet come close to reaching his potential. Like Iceman before, perhaps Vulcan lacks creativity and true skill with his potential as an energy manipulator and Storm, much like with Iceman, has mastered these forces and could even perhaps help Vulcan to unlock some of the control and imagination he lacks. (Which is kind of scary given Vulcan's past feats as well). However, with Storm's abilities to see Energy and manipulate them as weather to the point of wrestling control from other seemingly more powerful forces, would this not lend the argument that she is in fact the Omega in Energy manipulation. Or does perhaps the description of Weather Manipulator in fact trump all other energy manipulation as maybe most natural forces are involved in or demonstrated by the ability to manipulate the energies that bring about weather phenomena. I found her words I am Mother and Vulcan describing himself as Son somewhat metaphorical in that perhaps Storm represents the "origins" of all said energies. For example, Magneto cannot control the weather but in controlling the weather storm does in fact manipulate certain electromagnetic forces. Same with Iceman and cold. Her versatility gives her insight into all forms of energy manipulation even if she may not be the head honcho in that category (or perhaps she is, just due to classification she is labeled weather manipulator). It reminds me of the Emma Frost vs Rachel debate in regards to telepathy. So much richness here. Definitely another pure display of respect for Storm's power here. I must say it's thrilling to read a story where a black female hero is respected and represented so powerfully like any other premiere white male hero would be. Storm is finally truly a verified force and nothing to play with.
    if Vulcan uses his energy manipulation to grant him super strength then I say why not storm. and agreed it was just so much here to unpack I loved it.


    I did love how happy the arrakkii were when they saw ororo. I'm hoping we get a reference again to the hadari yao at some point
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    ALL HAIL THE HADARI YAO, THE OMEGA'S OMEGA, BEYOND OMEGA, THE VOICE OF SOL!!!! NOW AGAIN THE ONE TRUE AND ONLY GODDESS OF THE X-MEN AS CLAREMONT INTENDED!!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by StormBorn06 View Post
    To this day, some people still call Storm an unbeatable Mary Sue and think it's boring.

    I would say they are really boring, repeating the same arguments forever.
    They must not have been around for the last two decades.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Regent View Post
    They must not have been around for the last two decades.
    I think they have been around for quite some time. I have seen them in the CV forum many years ago.
    Al Ewing made Storm great again! Storm greatest challenge might not be a matter of destruction, but creation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by StormBorn06 View Post
    You can find them on Reddit, Twitter, and many other places.
    Ah, ok. I'll let them be for now. I'm not about to go search for Nay Sayers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by butterflykyss View Post
    if Vulcan uses his energy manipulation to grant him super strength then I say why not storm. and agreed it was just so much here to unpack I loved it.


    I did love how happy the arrakkii were when they saw ororo. I'm hoping we get a reference again to the hadari yao at some point
    For the sake of your mental health, forget about Hadari Yao. Al Ewing already said he doesn't want to be bothered by this, let's enjoy the moment and see what happens...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Amazona dos ventos View Post
    For the sake of your mental health, forget about Hadari Yao. Al Ewing already said he doesn't want to be bothered by this, let's enjoy the moment and see what happens...
    im not sure if you're intending to or not but this response is coming across condescending. first I didn't bring up hadari yao. secondly, my mental health is just fine even with wanting to at some point see hadari yao and I've done nothing but enjoy the moment, that doesn't need to be said. thank you but please don't bring this type of energy my way again (^_^)
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    ALL HAIL THE HADARI YAO, THE OMEGA'S OMEGA, BEYOND OMEGA, THE VOICE OF SOL!!!! NOW AGAIN THE ONE TRUE AND ONLY GODDESS OF THE X-MEN AS CLAREMONT INTENDED!!!!!

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