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    Quote Originally Posted by GenericUsername View Post
    It seems like Wanda loses a lot of her actual characterization when the focus is on making her the most powerful. Which only wins battle boards. It's not really necessary for good stories.
    The price of power is personality, who knew .

    Quote Originally Posted by The Agent of Chaos View Post
    There is a SHEILD sign behind him. That suggests the whole crew works for them.
    Xavier said "I saw that some people never change", so I have my doubts that this is supposed to be implying they're working for SHIELD now, or at least that they're good guys considering they all still look like delinquents.

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    I think that's the Evolution-verse's version of Freedom Force.
    Huh, or that, yeah, didn't consider that.
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    We all know that BND was a collective mid-life crisis from Marvel back then

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    Quote Originally Posted by gurkle View Post
    Yeah, it's not good. The fact that she was so boringly invincible was just one of the many problems in the movie. Even if you want her to win every fight, you should at least show her using her powers creatively, but we only got a couple of moments like that. For the most part it was just she fires red energy that is stronger than yellow energy for some reason.

    Again, WandaVision at least bothered to have her use her red fireballs to do something creative.

    But again this was a problem with the whole movie. There were only a few moments where magic was used for anything interesting. And as others have pointed out, even though Wanda was portrayed as ridiculously powerful, her actual range of powers was more or less set back to the pre-WandaVision powerset of telekinesis and telepathy. Because even though WandaVision was based entirely around the idea that she had the power to create things, the movie was all-too-obviously developed separately from the show.
    Also a lot of her powers boil down to "slasher logic", like her durability.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lukmendes View Post
    No it doesn't, Wanda and Pietro are still part of the Brotherhood:

    At the 1:01 mark you can see the SHIELD sign behind them. They collectively work for SHIELD now.

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    This is cute. Just follow the article linked to Ian McKellen's tweet

    https://twitter.com/IanMcKellen/stat...10286773456897

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    Quote Originally Posted by gurkle View Post
    Yeah, it's not good. The fact that she was so boringly invincible was just one of the many problems in the movie. Even if you want her to win every fight, you should at least show her using her powers creatively, but we only got a couple of moments like that. For the most part it was just she fires red energy that is stronger than yellow energy for some reason.

    Again, WandaVision at least bothered to have her use her red fireballs to do something creative.

    But again this was a problem with the whole movie. There were only a few moments where magic was used for anything interesting. And as others have pointed out, even though Wanda was portrayed as ridiculously powerful, her actual range of powers was more or less set back to the pre-WandaVision powerset of telekinesis and telepathy. Because even though WandaVision was based entirely around the idea that she had the power to create things, the movie was all-too-obviously developed separately from the show.
    This kind of reminds me of Carol in Endgame.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MaximoffTrash View Post
    A good script should explain itself, which this one clearly doesn't lol.
    Also seriously? The next stage of grief? Most hilarious **** I have seen.
    Didn't you know there are 6 stages of grief?
    Denial, Anger, Bargaining, Depression, Acceptance, and of course Psycho.

    There's a rule of storytelling called "Don't tell, show". Saying "She's corrupted", is like C3PO saying "Han Solo just flew through the asteroid field" and not showing anything.

    Though one advantage is it makes it much easier to retcon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Relugus View Post
    Didn't you know there are 6 stages of grief?
    Denial, Anger, Bargaining, Depression, Acceptance, and of course Psycho.

    There's a rule of storytelling called "Don't tell, show". Saying "She's corrupted", is like C3PO saying "Han Solo just flew through the asteroid field" and not showing anything.

    Though one advantage is it makes it much easier to retcon.
    The moral of the story is that you should never hit the acceptance phase of grief, it's better to keep it on or else you might turn into a danger for the society and everyone around you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MaximoffTrash View Post
    The moral of the story is that you should never hit the acceptance phase of grief, it's better to keep it on or else you might turn into a danger for the society and everyone around you.
    Pretty much, if you accept grief with no way out you be stuck their with try to find only ways to compensate it but it still be their.

    I am not an expert at all, but the way to take grief or what some of us are felling in going threw right now is

    A.) Knowing that their is more out their where the story of our Wanda can go cause they gave an opening at least with the Darkhold.

    B.) Knowing that despite the way Wanda was used she has stay consistent in love and popularity and most of the negatives get hit over the heads of the creators that choose what they did and not on Wanda.

    C.) With that desire for MORE Wanda content is on an all time high and with desire for more story their is more room then for grow.

    D.) The creators being blamed and then push the bad girl Wanda story as what seems as far as it could go if they give more content and likely with the push by fans to have it they likely have to go the positive routes cause they used up the other and they have to fix the problems they got themselves into.

    E.) NO MATTER WHAT, 1 version of Wanda is not the only version, you having Main Comics 616 Wanda as the most important. You have Wanda in various games being treated AS Wanda, you any possible animated projects that stick to traditional versions of the characters so on….

    The point of these points are grief accepts is accepting IMO Mostly in a situation like this is that their is no way out of it, When in reality their ARE plenty of roads to go down not only for hope, but in what is right now to live!

    Their are most beautifully more then I can say or type cause I run out of room to type, that is the true beauty we still have right now to overcome grief in this situation, but it can apply to other problems too, just look for the roads with hope and light, the ways out.
    "By Earth and Sky, By Craft and Hex -- By The Past and The Future – I Call HOPE Forth From The DARKNESS! I Speak The Words We Made Into MAGIC! Let THEIR Power Augment Our OWN! To Strike ONE BLOW From Our HEARTS and SOULS – From ALL THAT WE ARE! Let The CALL Go Forth -- AVENGERS! ASSEMBLE!" Scarlet Witch/Wanda Maximoff ~~ From Avengers #689!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ravin' Ray View Post
    This is cute. Just follow the article linked to Ian McKellen's tweet

    https://twitter.com/IanMcKellen/stat...10286773456897

    If I had a daughter, I’d hope she’d be like Elizabeth. A treat to be her Daddy!
    Indeed yes I found that pretty adorable as well. While I know it is not everyone’s cup of tea to see the magnus house in the MCU this is still a cute thing to hear for our Miss Olsen.
    "By Earth and Sky, By Craft and Hex -- By The Past and The Future – I Call HOPE Forth From The DARKNESS! I Speak The Words We Made Into MAGIC! Let THEIR Power Augment Our OWN! To Strike ONE BLOW From Our HEARTS and SOULS – From ALL THAT WE ARE! Let The CALL Go Forth -- AVENGERS! ASSEMBLE!" Scarlet Witch/Wanda Maximoff ~~ From Avengers #689!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Witchfan View Post
    It looked like Wanda enjoyed the idea being ruler of the multiverse.

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    "By Earth and Sky, By Craft and Hex -- By The Past and The Future – I Call HOPE Forth From The DARKNESS! I Speak The Words We Made Into MAGIC! Let THEIR Power Augment Our OWN! To Strike ONE BLOW From Our HEARTS and SOULS – From ALL THAT WE ARE! Let The CALL Go Forth -- AVENGERS! ASSEMBLE!" Scarlet Witch/Wanda Maximoff ~~ From Avengers #689!

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Agent of Chaos View Post
    It looked like Wanda enjoyed the idea being ruler of the multiverse.
    As bad as the movie is, I don't mind Wanda being the ruler of something, and get a title like Empress or something.
    That should fit comic Wanda now she effectively took Chthon's place.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CJStriker View Post
    Pretty much, if you accept grief with no way out you be stuck their with try to find only ways to compensate it but it still be their.

    I am not an expert at all, but the way to take grief or what some of us are felling in going threw right now is

    A.) Knowing that their is more out their where the story of our Wanda can go cause they gave an opening at least with the Darkhold.

    B.) Knowing that despite the way Wanda was used she has stay consistent in love and popularity and most of the negatives get hit over the heads of the creators that choose what they did and not on Wanda.

    C.) With that desire for MORE Wanda content is on an all time high and with desire for more story their is more room then for grow.

    D.) The creators being blamed and then push the bad girl Wanda story as what seems as far as it could go if they give more content and likely with the push by fans to have it they likely have to go the positive routes cause they used up the other and they have to fix the problems they got themselves into.

    E.) NO MATTER WHAT, 1 version of Wanda is not the only version, you having Main Comics 616 Wanda as the most important. You have Wanda in various games being treated AS Wanda, you any possible animated projects that stick to traditional versions of the characters so on….

    The point of these points are grief accepts is accepting IMO Mostly in a situation like this is that their is no way out of it, When in reality their ARE plenty of roads to go down not only for hope, but in what is right now to live!

    Their are most beautifully more then I can say or type cause I run out of room to type, that is the true beauty we still have right now to overcome grief in this situation, but it can apply to other problems too, just look for the roads with hope and light, the ways out.
    Yeah, at least the Future Revoltion story is not as creatively bankrupt as Waldron.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ravin' Ray View Post
    This is cute. Just follow the article linked to Ian McKellen's tweet

    https://twitter.com/IanMcKellen/stat...10286773456897

    If I had a daughter, I’d hope she’d be like Elizabeth. A treat to be her Daddy!
    I too would want Gandalf as Wanda's dad.

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