I don't get why she has to answer for stuff...no one can really make her answer for what she did..it can be a situation where Kang or Doom have them dead to rights and she bails them out. There are a few avenues to play to where her actions can make it up but the trial and things like that? Just not realistic. Next phase she's gonna have to deal with her not being with her kids and her attitude in that phase is where we see how her gray area character resonates.
She has to answer for stuff because the character we know would never hurt people willingly, and if she doesn't actually bother to learn to stop hurting people, then she's not worth following because she's not the character we know.
The end of WandaVision showed her studying her powers so she would stop unintentionally hurting people. The next team ignored that and made her hurt people again. Someone had better let her stop hurting people, just for variety.
No, no, no..we can't say that. Wandavision painted a different picture. She controlled others to try again. She knew it was wrong. Stopped it. But she definitely chose to continue going after the kids. That's enough right there. Trials and having to bow down to make it right. That's a road no one needs to see.
Wolverine definitely wanted to kill Wanda (and Wiccan). Cyclops did threaten to kill Wanda and took a shot at her. At least in the version I read.
The person I was replying to said:And what do you mean about again? They didn't flesh out any of the stuff with Chthon.
Why should they waste her own iconic villain in an ensemble movie again, it's her personal story.
There was a rumor back in 2020 about a Children's Crusade adaptation being the first arc of a Young Avengers show. Weren't the Young Avengers assembled by a Kang variant (Iron Lad)? If so, the Young Avengers members introduced in the 616 can easily travel to the 838.
Because it's story conclusion. Most stories have a beginning, middle and end. And it's not about others wanting her to answer for stuff. It should be about her wanting to set things right. Because in her natural state would be devastated about what she did. Her bailing out Kang or Doom isn't really setting things right. She could help stop the incursions with the other characters. But maybe stopping Chthon could help that since the Darkhold was linked to that. And Chthon's power signature is still there. I'd love for her to come to a conclusion about her kids, like Roy Thomas wrote for her many moons ago.
Love is for souls, not bodies.
This thread always resolves to this, but: bad writing doesn't count to how I feel about a character.
When Wanda realized she was hurting people, she sacrificed her children and her husband to set the town free. Then she went off to study the only known source of information on how to control her powers, and while she was doing it, she heard her children calling for help.
Then the next creative team ignores all of this and has her willingly hurting people to get copies of the kids she willingly gave up. Then for no real reason she stops. The excuse is "evil book made her evil" but it's just a dumb excuse to have her go through the exact same arc she just went through, only more violently.
Since the movie ignored everything about the show, even the fact that she thought her kids needed rescuing, the next project should ignore the movie as much as possible and actually move her character forward, instead of going through the same story.
Sure, but why? The Wanda of that universe is alive and happy with her kids. Maybe she'll get into some trouble for killing some people while possessed, but all the interesting stuff is in the main universe, where the main Wanda has actually committed crimes and has actual enemies and has actually gone missing. That's the setup for Children's Crusade; Wanda living happily with her children is not.
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One reason WandaVision was a good premise is that superhero movies really are like sitcoms. Continuity is basically fake, characters are whatever they need to be for the plot, and they're constantly learning lessons and then doing the exact same thing all over again.
Wanda is like Homer Simpson, learning a lesson at the end of one episode and forgetting everything and learning the exact same lesson in the next episode.
Oh, I think they'll be back. It's true this movie dismissed them as not real, but that contradicts WandaVision, and it also fits with the comics, where everyone in "Avengers Disassembled" assumed the kids weren't real but they actually had been reincarnated.
I just think it's more plausible that we'll see "our" Billy and Tommy again and looking for mainstream Wanda, than that another team will do anything with the other Wanda and her kids. She's fine, they're fine, and nobody cares about them because they have no personalities or dialogue. They'll just stay where they are while the Young Avengers look for the Scarlet Witch.
I wonder if the next Billy and Tommy that we see will already be teenagers.
Love is for souls, not bodies.