IMPERIUS REX! Namor the Sub-Mariner Appreciation 2022

[Doom'nGloom]

Oh lord. Why are you ambushing me with that ugliness? Any second now, Iron Maiden is going pull out that awful Maleev Bendis Namor. LOL!

Don't worry fam. I got you.

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(sorry I couldn't resist, I'll see myself out)

[charliehustle415]

Don't worry fam. I got you.

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(sorry I couldn't resist, I'll see myself out)

hey, is that my deli guy!?

[Phoenixx9]

hey, is that my deli guy!?

hahaha, I think that is everyone's deli guy!

It looks like his forearm is in a cast!

[ImperiusWrecked]

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It's so good already!!!! This series is going to be wonderful!

[Doombot]

I think Namor would/will die before he ever ages to frailty.

[Reviresco]

Don't worry fam. I got you.

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(sorry I couldn't resist, I'll see myself out)

aaaaah!!

I KNEW IT!!!

Dear god, it never gets any better.

hey, is that my deli guy!?

hahaha, I think that is everyone's deli guy!

It looks like his forearm is in a cast!

LOL! Even as a short order cook in a diner Namor looked better.





You know it is bad, when even the artist apologizes for the portrayal.

Infamous Ironman had me revisit a story I drew 8 years ago. Looking at the pages now, I confess I agree with the flack I caught from fans.

https://twitter.com/alexmaleev/statu...bm5fFmI-JwMX0g

[Doombot]

That Maleev Namor is an atrocity which ruined an otherwise enjoyable book.

[Doombot]

I wish Namor had made into Immortal Hulk beyond that cameo. I would have loved to have seen more Joe Bennett art of Namor in action. A modern Namor-Hulk slugfest would have been amazing.

[Doombot]

Welp. I'm going to throw a curveball into the conversation now.



Let's talk about Orka.

Debuting at the very tail end of the Silver Age, Orka was created, as many were during that time, as little more than a "goon with a gimmick". He's a bit of an aimless character, rarely doing much on his own, usually being used as a heavy for another character's plots. His personality, powers, and even size seem to be contradictory over the years. Fused or genetically infused with one of the most intelligent animals in the world, the Orca, he himself is a dimwit, yet also has resistance telepathy. He can fight Namor or Thor to a standstill, but be blown to hell by a Doombot or otherwise dismissed in other showings, in spite of being a powerhouse. Sometimes his a very large man, like 7-8 feet, other times he's like 20 feet.

Here's the question: How would you "fix" Orka? How do you drag him into the 21st century, modernize him and make him an actual threat to Namor and the world at large? Or is a "whale man" just too silly to be taken seriously, even for comics?

[ImperiusWrecked]

Orka is basically a very large Atlantean who got messed with by Dr. Dorcas. Imo Dr. Dorcas needs to make a huge come back and be cemented as the freaky scientist who creates a never ending supply of half human, or atlantean, or mutant/sea creature killing machines which he sells to the highest bidder in his attempt to find a way to gain an immortal life or to destroy Namor with, it would create a good recurring plot line and more enemies for Namor. Orka and Tigershark and others like him could become much more scary when we go with them leaning less into the "Goon" side and more with the "Scary as Heck experiment". Namor could be trying not to kill them since they were basically messed with by Dorcas and he has sympathy for their plight. Make Orka and Tigershark and others tragic rather than buffoonish.

[Reviresco]

Conquered Shores Preview

It's so good already!!!! This series is going to be wonderful!

Well. A very thoughtful Namor ... but still the same in some ways. "If it comes from the water it belongs to me." LOL@

My only complaint ... covering up way too much of Namor.

I think Namor would/will die before he ever ages to frailty.

I have to agree. "Aging is for other people." LOL!

[Reviresco]

I wish Namor had made into Immortal Hulk beyond that cameo. I would have loved to have seen more Joe Bennett art of Namor in action. A modern Namor-Hulk slugfest would have been amazing.

I agree. I think they had the most connections and fights of all the superheros for many years.

As for more Bennett Namor, IIRC, he did the final Best Defense issue, that had all the Defenders stories tie up together.

[Phoenixx9]

Welp. I'm going to throw a curveball into the conversation now.



Let's talk about Orka.

Debuting at the very tail end of the Silver Age, Orka was created, as many were during that time, as little more than a "goon with a gimmick". He's a bit of an aimless character, rarely doing much on his own, usually being used as a heavy for another character's plots. His personality, powers, and even size seem to be contradictory over the years. Fused or genetically infused with one of the most intelligent animals in the world, the Orca, he himself is a dimwit, yet also has resistance telepathy. He can fight Namor or Thor to a standstill, but be blown to hell by a Doombot or otherwise dismissed in other showings, in spite of being a powerhouse. Sometimes his a very large man, like 7-8 feet, other times he's like 20 feet.

Here's the question: How would you "fix" Orka? How do you drag him into the 21st century, modernize him and make him an actual threat to Namor and the world at large? Or is a "whale man" just too silly to be taken seriously, even for comics?

I always liked Orca, even with all of the changes!

At one time he had huge dorsal fins and I think a dark brown color, not the blue/white we see regularly. He looked more ferocious but I cannot remember if he was a giant then or not.

[Reviresco]

Welp. I'm going to throw a curveball into the conversation now.



Let's talk about Orka.

Debuting at the very tail end of the Silver Age, Orka was created, as many were during that time, as little more than a "goon with a gimmick". He's a bit of an aimless character, rarely doing much on his own, usually being used as a heavy for another character's plots. His personality, powers, and even size seem to be contradictory over the years. Fused or genetically infused with one of the most intelligent animals in the world, the Orca, he himself is a dimwit, yet also has resistance telepathy. He can fight Namor or Thor to a standstill, but be blown to hell by a Doombot or otherwise dismissed in other showings, in spite of being a powerhouse. Sometimes his a very large man, like 7-8 feet, other times he's like 20 feet.

Here's the question: How would you "fix" Orka? How do you drag him into the 21st century, modernize him and make him an actual threat to Namor and the world at large? Or is a "whale man" just too silly to be taken seriously, even for comics?

Orka is another Namor rogue that was killed, and then suddenly reappears alive with no explanation. I think the same happened to Tiger Shark, IIRC.

He was also another Namor rogue, like Tiger Shark, who was reformed, IIRC, when he joined Heroes of Hire.

It's one step forward, and two steps back.

Though, thinking about it, I think they should leave that Orka dead, and create a new one. Stupid whale man just doesn't work nowadays, and is ironic, since orcas are one of the most intelligent and social of animals.

Orka is basically a very large Atlantean who got messed with by Dr. Dorcas. Imo Dr. Dorcas needs to make a huge come back and be cemented as the freaky scientist who creates a never ending supply of half human, or atlantean, or mutant/sea creature killing machines which he sells to the highest bidder in his attempt to find a way to gain an immortal life or to destroy Namor with, it would create a good recurring plot line and more enemies for Namor. Orka and Tigershark and others like him could become much more scary when we go with them leaning less into the "Goon" side and more with the "Scary as Heck experiment". Namor could be trying not to kill them since they were basically messed with by Dorcas and he has sympathy for their plight. Make Orka and Tigershark and others tragic rather than buffoonish.

I like your idea for Dorcas, kind of like a Dr Moreau or Dr Frankenstein, but he HAS to have a name change. Dorcas is just an awful name. I think he should look like the newest version of Dorcas, where he looks like part starfish. Creepy! And I agree that his creations should look more scary and Cthulu creepy. Remind people why they fear the ocean depths.

[Reviresco]

I think we are getting a new Namor statue. Diamond Select?




https://twitter.com/sidewalksiren/st...SFueoKTiwwrm5g

Haven't seen an official announcement, but I think this is from NYCC.