The way the movie is performing overseas with the exception of France and the UK has been disappointing to weak. Like the first movie it’ll be dependent on the domestic box office, which has responded well but not extraordinarily. It has an outside shot of reaching a billion, owing to the strong word of mouth in the States, but it’s hard to say that’ll lead to repeat viewings at the same level as the original.
People are liking the tribute aspect of the movie but the length combined with the emotional coaster of framing the film around a real man’s death might suppress long term interest. For example, my kid saw it with some friends and he said he liked it but wouldn’t watch it again because it’s “a lot”. And we’ve already seen movies with incredible scores this year not translate into box office hits (Woman King didn’t even break even) so not like good reviews will automatically mean major success.
It probably does between 900 mil and a billion, better than Thor and just above or below Strange. Which isn’t bad and very possibly what the film would’ve made even if they did recast. The second Boseman died this movie was never gonna beat the original’s numbers and when you add in the loss of China, Russia, and Ukraine the film has a lot up against it. I don’t think it’ll be the resounding success people want it to be financially but in terms of the general perception of the MCU I think this movie did what Disney wanted and left them a solid enough foundation for the franchise moving forward.
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I think T’Challa Jr. is a long term solution to the recast situation. Coogler and co kicked that can down the road and will position Shuri as BP for the Multiverse Saga and BP3. We may or may not get a project about young T’Challa in the meantime. Some of the same folks who leaked key details for this movie have already hinted they want to go The Godfather route at least for a project and have T’Challa Jr. parallel his dad’s upbringing. Towards the end of Secret Wars (4-5 years from now) or a bit past that they can age him up to his mid-20s (kid’s already like 8-9). From there they can let him take over for a new BP trilogy likely handled by a new director. Coogler’s been open about how he’s not ready to use T’Challa and by then his deal with Disney will be up and he’ll probably want to do his own projects.
There’s a possibility the kid might just have been included to complete the thematic arc of the movie being about loss. That they follow through with T’Challa’s wishes and the kid never grows up with the pressure of the throne. So we’re stuck with Shuri for a decade stealing T’Challa’s stories. Kinda doubt it, naming him T’Challa is on the nose as hell and we already know that Coogler is aware of how comic T’Challa was raised up. Him being a boy king and spending part of his youth abroad fits with the comic accurate background Coogler has expressed T’Challa is supposed to have.
Last edited by chief12d; 11-12-2022 at 12:04 PM.
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As I’ve said before, Kang gives them the perfect excuse to age the kid up to his 20’s. And so far there seems to be no plans for a Black Panther 3 before Secret Wars. I think T’Challa will be the lead by Black Panther 3 since it seems we won’t get it until after Secret Wars. Bonus points if it gets released in 2028 just in time for the 10th anniversary of the original film.
T'Challa
A.K.A. The Black Panther
King of Wakanda
King of the Dead and The Champion of Bast
Two-Time Time Magazine "Person Of The Year"
Six-Time People Magazine "Sexiest Man Alive"
Yeah.
I mean, TMZ of all place is highlighting how divided fans are:
https://www.tmz.com/2022/11/12/black...vided-tchalla/
Folks that don’t want to be spoiled shouldn’t read though, because they completely spoil the movie.
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If the fans are divided into "recast/no recast," then recasting doesn't solve that problem. There'd be division no matter what.
Okay we got a new weekend box office prediction, now its between $175 million and $185 million
https://deadline.com/2022/11/box-off...er-1235169891/
2nd strongest opening weekend this year after Doc Strange 2, but they believe it could go all the way beyond 190 million. Its opening day is the 10th-highest opening day ever at $84M.
We'll see how it does over the weekend.
Its already at around 150 WW, here in PA I've seen normslly dead theaters quite busy, presumably for this, and its raining this whole weekend so there isn't a ton else to even do. Im thinking it could def hit 190, and it should be a pretty strong player until avatar hits and even then it will probably stay in the top 3.
Some are gonna call anything below 1.5 bil a flop but its def not gonna beat BP1. I'll be shocked if it dies. Its going to be successful though.
How is the movie doing compared to past mid-November releases?