YIBAMBE! T’Challa: The Black Panther Appreciation 2022

[Mantis-Ray]

Here is the MAJOR difference with those other places and Wakanda.

Not one of those writers said they HATED the concept of Asgard or Themyscira or Thor or Nubia or Wonder Woman like we have seen with almost every Black Panther writer.

Those other folks were telling stories. This mess here is just trashing a franchise for the heck of it.

Yeah I gotta agree there is a weird double standard afoot here.

Stephanie Williams who will soon be writing an issue of the Wakanda series is currently writing the Nubia & the Amazons/Queen of the Amazons series which centers on Nubia as the newly crowned monarch of Themyscira. It wasn't even through an election, it was a contest of champions and Hippolyta giving her the crown because she thinks she's the best suited one for the job.

And from what I hear there's no teardown of the system and toxic it is or whatever. Its just Nubia's adventures as the new ruler of the Amazons and dealing with all the interesting ramifications of it and trying to integrate with the wider world as a hole.

Hell they even did a coronation one-shot special celebrating Nubia officially being crowned Queen with the whole thing being treated as a great special beautiful affair. If they really thought negatively of Themyscira then they wouldn't portray Nubia's crowning so positively.

[Klaue's Mixtape]

What is the context for this exactly? What happened here?

Dude criticized Luke Cage not being like he was in the comics. The showrunner pulled up on him to push back.

Im just saying one of these days it'd be funny if Coates pulled up on Ekie criticizing his comics.

I think Ekie vastly underrates Coates knowledge of T'Challa. You gotta have a very good understanding in order to deconstruct the character like he did.

[KingNomarch]

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So T'Challa teams up with Tosin, Omololo, whatever the PM's assistant name is and the Buffalo Soldier. I care nothing for any of Ridley's OCs and the BP vs Avengers story I always wanted is about to be fumbled horrendously. Unless they're using T'Challa contingencies, i don't see any of these OCs doing anything to the Avengers.

[MouserGrey]

You just have to dislike being a strong male to deconstruct T'Challa like Coates did. Destruction is easy, creation is hard. And re-creating is harder still. Really think about it. Coates failed miserably if he even tried at any form of reconstruction.

[BlackClaw]

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So T'Challa teams up with Tosin, Omololo, whatever the PM's assistant name is and the Buffalo Soldier. I care nothing for any of Ridley's OCs and the BP vs Avengers story I always wanted is about to be fumbled horrendously. Unless they're using T'Challa contingencies, i don't see any of these OCs doing anything to the Avengers.

Well look on the bright side at least we still have BPQ.

[KingNomarch]

Well look on the bright side at least we still have BPQ.

Can't believe tomorrow it'll be 4 years since we got BPQ. AA/BPQ might be the best adaption of T'Challa to date and likely ever the way that things are looking now.

[Steroid]

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So T'Challa teams up with Tosin, Omololo, whatever the PM's assistant name is and the Buffalo Soldier. I care nothing for any of Ridley's OCs and the BP vs Avengers story I always wanted is about to be fumbled horrendously. Unless they're using T'Challa contingencies, i don't see any of these OCs doing anything to the Avengers.

I am so glad I dropped this mockery of a Black Panther series.

[Overhazard]

You just have to dislike being a strong male to deconstruct T'Challa like Coates did. Destruction is easy, creation is hard. And re-creating is harder still. Really think about it. Coates failed miserably if he even tried at any form of reconstruction.

Part of me thinks these writers want to make their mark via deconstruction, they probably know how beloved Dark Knight and Watchmen are and decided "Hey, I can do that." except they can't. Those books were good, but they came along during the 80's, an era of disillusion and social upheaval. They were very much products of their era. They break down T'challa for the sake of doing it, there's nothing else behind it except shallow "monarchy/men bad" and "democracy/women good." Twitter social justice. It doesn't move any further than that.

They write T'challa like this for Twitter, which is a poor barometer of anything because A. It's one of the least used social media sites, and B. Twitter people don't read comics, they pirate them.

[Mantis-Ray]

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So T'Challa teams up with Tosin, Omololo, whatever the PM's assistant name is and the Buffalo Soldier. I care nothing for any of Ridley's OCs and the BP vs Avengers story I always wanted is about to be fumbled horrendously. Unless they're using T'Challa contingencies, i don't see any of these OCs doing anything to the Avengers.

Huh so I guess Buffalo Soldier will turn on the Colonialist in the end. Kinda spoilers there for that cover.

Is it gonna be like when Coates had Thunderball of the Wrecking Crew redeemed and joining up with T'Challa simply because Thunderball is black?

[Dariel81]

Huh so I guess Buffalo Soldier will turn on the Colonialist in the end. Kinda spoilers there for that cover.

Is it gonna be like when Coates had Thunderball of the Wrecking Crew redeemed and joining up with T'Challa simply because Thunderball is black?

That was the best thing to ever happen to Franklin he deserved that moment. He is the only interesting Wrecking Ball member because of his background

[Dariel81]

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So T'Challa teams up with Tosin, Omololo, whatever the PM's assistant name is and the Buffalo Soldier. I care nothing for any of Ridley's OCs and the BP vs Avengers story I always wanted is about to be fumbled horrendously. Unless they're using T'Challa contingencies, i don't see any of these OCs doing anything to the Avengers.

I want to be excited but Ridley just sucks

[Mantis-Ray]

That was the best thing to ever happen to Franklin he deserved that moment. He is the only interesting Wrecking Ball member because of his background

I'm curious did Thunderball regard the crew as family same as how the rest of the Wreckers think of each other?

[Ekie]

Dude criticized Luke Cage not being like he was in the comics. The showrunner pulled up on him to push back.

Im just saying one of these days it'd be funny if Coates pulled up on Ekie criticizing his comics.

I think Ekie vastly underrates Coates knowledge of T'Challa. You gotta have a very good understanding in order to deconstruct the character like he did.

Coats didn't even understand the medium he was working Within let alone the character he was hired to write about
What comic book writer doesn't understand that people have personal connections to their favorite superheroes? He literally said he was surprised by that.

Nor did he understand the concept of wakanda and why including things like rape and misogyny is antithetical to its very creation

The difference between me and that Twitter troll complaining that Luke Cage wasn't Hood enough is that I'm complaining that T'Challa isn't a rape sympathizer, dictator, or closeted misogynist holding back all of the female Side characters within his franchise

[Ekie]

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So T'Challa teams up with Tosin, Omololo, whatever the PM's assistant name is and the Buffalo Soldier. I care nothing for any of Ridley's OCs and the BP vs Avengers story I always wanted is about to be fumbled horrendously. Unless they're using T'Challa contingencies, i don't see any of these OCs doing anything to the Avengers.

Lol
All the stories we've always wanted and talked about in this thread like Space Adventures and wakanda versus the world.

Yet these are the ppl we get it from

[Ezyo1000]

Dude criticized Luke Cage not being like he was in the comics. The showrunner pulled up on him to push back.

Im just saying one of these days it'd be funny if Coates pulled up on Ekie criticizing his comics.

I think Ekie vastly underrates Coates knowledge of T'Challa. You gotta have a very good understanding in order to deconstruct the character like he did.

Clearly he didn't because he literally had to create Bullshit retcons to deconstruct him. The fact that he had T'Challa meet with despots to learn how to quell an uprising, with the reason of "I jUsT WaNtEd tO SeE wHaT tHeY wOuLd sAy" completely shatters any notion that Coates understood T'Challa at all. Dude made it painfully clear that he didn't get Wakanda and especially T'Challa at all and his knowledge was limited