YIBAMBE! T’Challa: The Black Panther Appreciation 2022

[XJlock]

King? He is still king? I wonder what became different and what remained in the structure of Wakanda's governance after their recent civil war.

[MindofShadow]

Cap literally told T'challa last issue that they could penetrate Vibranium....


Sigh

[Klaue's Mixtape]

Nm. Not worth reshashing.

[chief12d]

I hate the fact I chuckled at this lol.

[Klaue's Mixtape]

Cap literally told T'challa last issue that they could penetrate Vibranium....


Sigh

He just be writing man, lol

[talentedbutnot]

Coates and Ridley are tied with writing some of the WORST BP fanfiction I've ever seen in my life. Two sides of the same coin. Somehow though...Coates was the more grating one? Which is nuts when you read some of the tomfoolery in Ridley's stuff.

[MindofShadow]

I hate the fact I chuckled at this lol.

The backhand was kinda funny.

Now T'challa knows how Back Hand Bari felt

[BlackClaw]

King? He is still king? I wonder what became different and what remained in the structure of Wakanda's governance after their recent civil war.

This is the same writer who couldn’t even properly conclude his spy arc. Of course he can’t stay consistent on what T’Challas role in Wakanda is.

[MindofShadow]

He just be writing man, lol

It's getting to the point that dude must just get high and go "I wonder if Marvel will let write this...."

[KingNomarch]

Cap literally told T'challa last issue that they could penetrate Vibranium....


Sigh

Lol just like the issue where the PM takes emergency powers and orders Akili to kill T'Challa just for the very next issue for her to say that Akili can't just kill T'Challa and that she's taking emergency powers from Akili.

[Klaue's Mixtape]

I think the way you’ve written T’Challa has been in line with his aggregate personality throughout all the different writers. He’s always been reluctant. To me, he’s always been the character who thinks, I wish I didn’t have to do this, but I actually have to. And sometimes other people have to tell him that. So do you feel like T’Challa was reluctant to interrogate his own relationship to institutional power throughout your run?

Definitely. And this probably goes back to your first question. I think there’s a desire for whatever reason to see a version of T’Challa that is always ahead of the opposition and is never really in any sort of danger. Man, the different thing about comic books — and legacy characters, especially — is that people really live into them. They really, really do, in a way that I didn’t understand at first. That wasn’t really my relationship to comics coming up. I mean, I had my favorite characters, but my attachment was different.

After I got the gig and went back to read older stories, I was mostly interested in T’Challa, because it really felt like this was a character who had been born into royalty but really didn’t want to be royal. That wasn’t his thing. He had an adventurous spirit, he traveled, he was constantly leaving Wakanda. Going off to college, joining the Avengers, and exploring other places, even though he was born in the most advanced country in the world. This was a guy who was in many ways kind of a rolling stone, and yet duty called him back to home. That’s the preeminent conflict all through the entire run.

I think it goes deeper, too, when you consider what his childhood was probably like. The minute T’Chaka dies, he knows that duty’s going to be thrust upon him. So his childhood was one of having to prepare for that mantle from the time he was a little kid. And you know what it’s like when you tell a kid, “You have to do something,” and they have no choice about it. They don’t want to do it. And some of that probably informs his adult personality. In terms of T’Challa interrogating his own relationship to power, one of the deep ironies of where you leave him is, he comes into even more power. Was that something you knew was going to be a beat for the ending?

Yeah, pretty early on I knew that. I can’t remember when, but I was pretty clear that he wasn’t going to get out.
https://www.polygon.com/interviews/2...ates-interview


Whether you agree or disagree with Coates and Evan. Like even if you think they're dead wrong you could see why they think what they think or do what they do.

I dont think Ridley could have a real conversation about T'Challa with any kind of perspective.

[KingNomarch]

Nm. Not worth reshashing.

You think the rape camps were Coates' only sin? Lol they were just one of many dumb ish from his era but were the worse offense. One of the things that Ridley has done better is pacing compared to the slower than a snail pacing Coates done.

[MindofShadow]

Whether you agree or disagree with Coates and Evan. Like even if you think they're dead wrong you could see why they think what they think or do what they do.

I dont think Ridley could have a real conversation about T'Challa with any kind of perspective.

Evan is such a butt kisser though lol. Rise of BP is not even close to the same T'challa as Coates. And his Avengers Game Version isn't either. Dude morphs depending on who he is talking to lol.

BUT ANYWAY

My biggest issue with Ridley is not the fact he isn't trying to "figure out" or "dig deep" into T'challa. I don't even need deep T'challa. I'd gladly at this point take mediocre action comic T'challa, something closer to Hudlin...

The problem is... dude can't write lol. His dialogue is truly horrific. He can't keep track of plot points that are mentioned just one comic prior. Nothing makes F'ing sense.

It fails at depth. It fails at dialogue. It fails on plot. It even fails on getting basic powers scale right.

What little "good" in the book is just the artist trying to save it...

[Frontier]

Evan is such a butt kisser though lol. Rise of BP is not even close to the same T'challa as Coates. And his Avengers Game Version isn't either. Dude morphs depending on who he is talking to lol.

BUT ANYWAY

My biggest issue with Ridley is not the fact he isn't trying to "figure out" or "dig deep" into T'challa. I don't even need deep T'challa. I'd gladly at this point take mediocre action comic T'challa, something closer to Hudlin...

The problem is... dude can't write lol. His dialogue is truly horrific. He can't keep track of plot points that are mentioned just one comic prior. Nothing makes F'ing sense.

It fails at depth. It fails at dialogue. It fails on plot. It even fails on getting basic powers scale right.

What little "good" in the book is just the artist trying to save it...

I didn't think a writer could fail to capture T'Challa's voice as badly as Bendis did.

[MindofShadow]

I didn't think a writer could fail to capture T'Challa's voice as badly as Bendis did.

Bendis at least gave us the illuminati scene.

Falling and breaking his neck would be a mercy killing at this point lol