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    Quote Originally Posted by boots View Post
    sure, isn't that their thesis?

    that we have 2 mainstream 616 spider-men in the traditional marvel hero mould? so a third is hard to place? because the degrees of difference between them all are slighter than say, spider-noir or spider-uk?

    kaine being less old skool kaine and more traditional marvel (anti) hero now doesn't help.

    i get their issue. it would come up in any creative meeting about the direction of characters. what i don't get is their solution.

    i think if we could show examples of how multiple iterations of the "same character" have co-existed successfully, there might be more meat there to slap marvel in the face with.
    Hard to do within the marvel universe as they where defined by their stand against legacy heroes for many years. At best you have to look at street level characters in say Avengers or other teams. Super soldier serum heroes perhaps?

    With DC it’s easier but they often go back and forth with editorial restrictions so consistent isn’t a common word. Batman universe characters tend to be similar and occupy the same spaces. GL clearly went to far. But it could support at least 4 heroes with the same green ring.

    One problem with whatever logic Nick Lowe throws at us that we know that Marvel won’t be consistent. They only write rules like this to break them. If they come into a situation where a character they are excited for goes against this logic it won’t even be worth the paper it was printed in.

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    Ben as Scarlet Spider is playable in Marvel Strike Force



    Marvel's timing with Chasm could seriously not have been any worse.
    Last edited by Matt Rat; 05-15-2022 at 06:31 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Matt Rat View Post
    Ben as Scarlet Spider is playable in Marvel Strike Force



    Marvel's timing with Chasm could seriously not have been any worse.
    Marvel bad with timing as usual
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    Look at that beauty of a suit

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    Quote Originally Posted by Matt Rat View Post
    Ben as Scarlet Spider is playable in Marvel Strike Force



    Marvel's timing with Chasm could seriously not have been any worse.
    chasm is months after this though
    "He's pure power and doesn't even know it. He's the best of us."-Matt Murdock

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jman27 View Post
    chasm is months after this though
    Is all planned in advance. Bad synergy there.

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    They couldn't have put Chasm in the game months before his debut in the comics. It also wouldn't have fit the theme, because Chasm is a seemingly going to be a villain in the comics. The solution to the synergy problem would be to not use Ben Reilly at all.

    Personally, I don't think it matters if games like this end up being slightly out of date with character costumes or identities months after they're released.

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    So huh... Ben has an actual theme song in that game?

    Discovering/CONFESSING! the nature of evil... one retcon at a time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by iamnotjudastraveller View Post
    so huh... Ben has an actual theme song in that game?

    what's a clone gotta do to get some respect around here?

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    New Ben Reilly art statue coming this year also



    https://bleedingcool.com/collectible...rtist-statues/

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    Quote Originally Posted by IamnotJudasTraveller View Post
    So huh... Ben has an actual theme song in that game?

    You know, even if it's just a video game, it's nice that there's a universe out there where Ben is still himself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by IamnotJudasTraveller View Post
    So huh... Ben has an actual theme song in that game?

    You know, I weirdly dig it

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    Quote Originally Posted by IamnotJudasTraveller View Post
    So huh... Ben has an actual theme song in that game?

    Whoever wrote this needs a raise. The creativity of those lyrics is something else.

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    scaaaarleeeeeeeet

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    I'm just a casual Ben Reilly fan and I'm upset with what they've done to him. It's like a slap in the face to the character and his fans.
    "We live in a world of cowards. We live in a world full of small minds who are afraid. We are ruled by those who refuse to risk anything of their own. Who guard their over bloated paucities of power with money. With false reasoning. With measured hesitance. With prideful, recalcitrant inaction. With hateful invective. With weapons. F@#K these selfish fools and their prevailing world order." Tony Stark

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tony Stark View Post
    I'm just a casual Ben Reilly fan and I'm upset with what they've done to him. It's like a slap in the face to the character and his fans.
    CBR even have Ben's treatment among it's top eight "harsh realities for Spider-Man fans" article

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