Tim Drake: Robin, Red Robin, Appreciation 2022

[Restingvoice]

With regards to Tim's niche's do people think that these ones might be too similar to Bruce?

Not lately. Ever since Batman Inc went public and the Snyder-Tynion combo of burning Gotham every story arc, Bruce and Batman's life have been connected in a way that juggling every day life isn't an issue anymore. Batman is Bruce's business, and Bruce is okay being consumed by Batman. He's not trying to disconnect it from his life.

[NOCTPHOENIX]

Not lately. Ever since Batman Inc went public and the Snyder-Tynion combo of burning Gotham every story arc, Bruce and Batman's life have been connected in a way that juggling every day life isn't an issue anymore. Batman is Bruce's business, and Bruce is okay being consumed by Batman. He's not trying to disconnect it from his life.

Well to be more specific I meant with regards to the chessmaster/detective angle for Tim.

[godisawesome]

Well to be more specific I meant with regards to the chessmaster/detective angle for Tim.

I think for his two previous niches… still no, it’s not too similar to Bruce’s. I’d argue a lot of that came down to personality and to a compensating imbalance in Tim’s skills compared to Bruce.

Bruce has always been portrayed as a “peak human condition”/“world’s greatest fighter” type who, if he did get outfoxed or in too deep on an investigation, could just badass his way out of it and hold his ground, and even his BatGod mode tends to be portrayed as reactive rather than active - he makes contingency plans or seeks to match another mastermind when the game begins.

Tim’s two niches didn’t have that - his first niche as the Everyman Robin emphasized his comparatively much more humble and limited physical skills to put more pressure on him to think on his feet for a fight (like distracting King Snake with a whistling stick for an all-or-nothing attack) or else he’d get his ass kicked, and his second niche as the a Chessmaster retained much of his physical disadvantages but put a lot more emphasis on him actively planning and initiating schemes himself (like sabotaging Ra’s Al Ghul entire operation and setting up multiple criminals to be taken down through schemes.)

Of course, it requires competent writing to focus on those kinds of things, and avoid just making him Batman-lite. Tim’s a lot like Dick in that way - both can struggle if a more mediocre writer just tries to write their mediocre Batman stories instead.

No, it’s not like Jason, who can have a thoroughly mediocre writer like Scott Lobdell just write him like a 90’s Anti-Hero throwback ‘cause he’s got guns… but I would say that Damian’s had a small number of writers who’ve demonstrated a similar issue of just making him “conventional Robin.”

[SixSpeedSamurai]

Tim was in Urban Legends this week and Future State Tim is in Future State Gotham #16 this week.

[failo.legendkiller]

Tim was in Urban Legends this week and Future State Tim is in Future State Gotham #16 this week.

Thank you for the Urban Legends advise, I would never picked it up.
It's always great having some Batman & Robin action. As a backup story is really enjoyable and reminds me of the good old times.

[Veni]

by Maru Davalos
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[Veni]

by Maru Davalos
Tim and Steph getting married
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[Frontier]

Adorable

And sad .

[dietrich]

Tim's Pride Special debuted at no 117

https://www.comicbookrevolution.com/...ales-rankings/

[Veni]

Tim & Steph
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[Konja7]

Tim's Pride Special debuted at no 117

https://www.comicbookrevolution.com/...ales-rankings/

Yeah. That seems a pretty bad position.

That said, everything (except Batman and Nightwing) seems pretty low for the Batfamily and DC.

[NOCTPHOENIX]

Tim's Pride Special debuted at no 117

https://www.comicbookrevolution.com/...ales-rankings/

Yeah. That seems a pretty bad position.

That said, everything (except Batman and Nightwing) seems pretty low for the Batfamily and DC.

Dark Crisis YJ isn't doing so hot as well. I wonder how the solo will do.

[Jackalope89]

Gotta ask, BTAS Tim Drake; like him? Or did him having so many elements of Jason skew the comics version (or vice versa) for you?

[godisawesome]

Gotta ask, BTAS Tim Drake; like him? Or did him having so many elements of Jason skew the comics version (or vice versa) for you?

I tend to just chalk him up as Jason with the wrong name - and honestly, as a kid I liked comic-Tim better for having such a different personality from the BTAS version. Jason and BTAS Tim are intentionally a bit abrasive and cocky, and I like that in certain contexts… but it works better as the rebellious prodigal son rather than the partner and prodigy, which is the type of Tim I prefer.

[WebLurker]

I tend to just chalk him up as Jason with the wrong name - and honestly, as a kid I liked comic-Tim better for having such a different personality from the BTAS version. Jason and BTAS Tim are intentionally a bit abrasive and cocky, and I like that in certain contexts… but it works better as the rebellious prodigal son rather than the partner and prodigy, which is the type of Tim I prefer.

Didn't the recent comic book continuation of the show have a DCAU Jason that was supposed to slot in somewhere?