"Never assign to malice what is adequately explained by stupidity or ignorance."
"Great stories will always return to their original forms"
"Nobody is more dangerous than he who imagines himself pure in heart; for his purity, by definition, is unassailable." James Baldwin
So.. the Human Target is not official continuity, right?
"Never assign to malice what is adequately explained by stupidity or ignorance."
"Great stories will always return to their original forms"
"Nobody is more dangerous than he who imagines himself pure in heart; for his purity, by definition, is unassailable." James Baldwin
"There's magic in the sound of analog audio." - CNET.
Remember, Giffen revealed in some interview years ago that most of the Powers That Were at the time "hated" what they were doing. I suspect that the sales were strong enough that that was the main reason that he, DeMatteis, and Helfer & Dooley weren't forced off the book at a much earlier point. And let's not forget how the JLI era quickly supplanted the Justice League Detroit era and line-up as the League's most embarrassing point in history once the Morrison era was truly up and running.
Then I was right by drop it. If there is something than I remember about Giffen it was than continuity wasn't the problem but coherence. And I saw than this stoty didn't respected the coherence of the characters.
Even when Winnick did that horrible retcon on Ice he kept the coherence of Ice as character.
"Never assign to malice what is adequately explained by stupidity or ignorance."
"Great stories will always return to their original forms"
"Nobody is more dangerous than he who imagines himself pure in heart; for his purity, by definition, is unassailable." James Baldwin
JLI... Today!:
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(Those oreos took their toll J'onn).
"Never assign to malice what is adequately explained by stupidity or ignorance."
"Great stories will always return to their original forms"
"Nobody is more dangerous than he who imagines himself pure in heart; for his purity, by definition, is unassailable." James Baldwin
"Never assign to malice what is adequately explained by stupidity or ignorance."
"Great stories will always return to their original forms"
"Nobody is more dangerous than he who imagines himself pure in heart; for his purity, by definition, is unassailable." James Baldwin
Okay, so I bought the two big trades of this series and have been reading it properly for the first time. What I mean by "reading it properly" is that I had read a few scattered issues when I was a kid, largely from the odd spinner rack or back issues from a used book store and a trade of the first seven issues (I rarely, if ever, had a real comic shop around when I was a kid). So, mostly, the Justice League International was part of the background radiation of the DC Universe. I didn't even know they were supposed to be funny for a long time because usually when they were written as guest stars back then, the writers from other titles didn't write them as comedic characters, they just wrote them as, y'know, the Justice League. They were the big team that had the international clout.
So, I'm glad to say that it stands up to its reputation among fans. I mean, of course, the humor is fantastic. But what really got me is how human everyone is. I mean, lots of writers try to make their characters human, but in many cases the human drama that was meant to make you relate to the characters ends up so overblown that it really doesn't feel real at a certain point. But things like Scott and Barda's home life, Beetle and Booster bringing out each other's juvenile side, or Fire and Ice worrying about how they'll pay the rent when the Global Guardians lose their funding hits the sweet spot perfectly. Very good stuff.
Yeah, a lot of the people who hated JLI never saw how deep the characterization was in the book. They just saw the surface giggles and wrote it off.
Giffen & DeMatteis (and Maguire and Hughes) were a great team. They would balance out very serious plots with very human reactions.
I remember they mentioned that they approached JLI as if it was just a bunch of people at work. It just so happened that their job was being in the Justice League.
Anyone who's worked in the public with a regular group of people can likely relate to the JLI and how they get along with each other.
Last edited by Lee Stone; 04-03-2022 at 09:59 PM.
"There's magic in the sound of analog audio." - CNET.
so I saw the dark crisis preview and was this the only JL team in the 80s? Post crisis?