Dick Grayson: Robin/Batman/Nightwing/Agent 37 Appreciation 2022

[Frontier]

Dick won’t die and it’s not the end of his involvement. He and Alan Scott have a conversation in issue 4 with Scott telling Dick that it’s his time to step up same as how the League stepped up to replace the Society. Can’t have that talk if he’s dead.

Where is the JSA again...?

[Murrocko]

I jumped into Dark Crisis knowing absolutely nothing, but wanted to check it out since Nightwing seems to be a lead in it. My bad if this has been covered already here, but what exactly is going on lol? Is this like another COIE/Infinite Crisis/Final Crisis? Obviously the Justice League aren't dead (or won't be for long) but what happened to them before this issue, like what was the build up to this disappearance? Also I thought Deathstroke was somewhat good these days, why's he leading these villains to attack the heroes (if that's even been reveled yet)? Last one, was I supposed to know who that guy was on the last page or is that a completely new character?

[Vordan]

Lead up is:
-JL #75 for how the JL died
-Shadow War and Deathstroke Inc. for how Deathstroke ended up where he is
-Guy at the end is Pariah, an obscure character from CoIE

[Aahz]

He`s a "super soldier". Enhanced. yes. Insurmountable, maybe. Impossible, definitely not.

Deathstroke is above peak human, highly trained, has pretty powerfull armor (Ok I'm not sure what the current one does) and deadly weapons.

[K7P5V]

He`s a "super soldier". Enhanced. yes. Insurmountable, maybe. Impossible, definitely not.

Deathstroke is above peak human, highly trained, has pretty powerfull armor (Ok I'm not sure what the current one does) and deadly weapons.

Indeed. But, his best & most powerful weapon is his genetically-enhanced mind

[Digifiend]

Deathstroke is above peak human, highly trained, has pretty powerfull armor (Ok I'm not sure what the current one does) and deadly weapons.

Yeah, he's basically a cross between Captain America (the super soldier origin) and Punisher (the weapon expertise). Both of those characters are also war veterans like Slade is.

[Aahz]

Btw. I don't say that a normal Human couldn't win with a smart stratgy (or powerfull equipment).

But in straight up melee fight I don't see it.

[Rac7d*]

Btw. I don't say that a normal Human couldn't win with a smart stratgy (or powerfull equipment).

But in straight up melee fight I don't see it.

Batman has done it
Talia had done it
Remember Slade also like 90 years old

[Aahz]

Batman has done it
Talia had done it

That's what my Initial complain was about in the past years he has often been writen like he was roughly comparable to the Batman characters, and that should imo not be the case based on his powers and equipment (even if he doesn't seem to use the Icon Suit anymore).

[Restingvoice]

Batman has done it
Talia had done it
Remember Slade also like 90 years old

Actual 90 or...

I jumped into Dark Crisis knowing absolutely nothing, but wanted to check it out since Nightwing seems to be a lead in it. My bad if this has been covered already here, but what exactly is going on lol? Is this like another COIE/Infinite Crisis/Final Crisis? Obviously the Justice League aren't dead (or won't be for long) but what happened to them before this issue, like what was the build up to this disappearance? Also I thought Deathstroke was somewhat good these days, why's he leading these villains to attack the heroes (if that's even been reveled yet)? Last one, was I supposed to know who that guy was on the last page or is that a completely new character?

Guy at the end first appeared in Infinite Frontier series then Justice Incarnate then Death of Justice League. It's been building up for a while

[Felipe Silveira]

A villain that cannot be defeated is useless. A villain like Slade has to look invincible, but in the end he has to be defeated.

[Aahz]

A villain that cannot be defeated is useless. A villain like Slade has to look invincible, but in the end he has to be defeated.

He is a villain created to fight the New Titans, a team with Superpowered Members like Donna Troy, Starfire and Cyborg.

He can be defeated but imo not in one on one combat by non Superpowered Character, without using any tricks.

[Felipe Silveira]

He is a villain created to fight the New Titans, a team with Superpowered Members like Donna Troy, Starfire and Cyborg.

He can be defeated but imo not in one on one combat by non Superpowered Character, without using any tricks.

wow, how much protectionism

[Lal]

He is a villain created to fight the New Titans, a team with Superpowered Members like Donna Troy, Starfire and Cyborg.

He can be defeated but imo not in one on one combat by non Superpowered Character, without using any tricks.

I think if Dick will indeed be able to take Deathstroke down in ahand-to-hand combat, it will mostly be used to show the readers the road Dick went from being a teenager that needed his team to fight him, to being able to barely sort-of hold his own against him (in previous iterations of them fighting), to now finally being able to surpass him.
So I assume it will be about elevating Nightwing and showing the progress he made from his sidekick days to being able to take down single-handedly one of the biggest bads in the DCU.

[Restingvoice]

If you want justification just say Slade's recent resurrection and getting body jacked by the Great Darkness lower his capacity. Much like other possession and brainwashing.like when Dick was Jokerized or Shiva was Grodded

On the other hand if my interpretation of Dark Crisis is correct Dick remembers all of his experience from previous continuity

He just got brain damaged multiple times in his own series so it didn't kick in until a year in lol

As for Talia, Slade simply underestimated her while she's been getting training since birth ever since she got Morrisoned so she is a great deal more skillfull compared to the 70s