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    Quote Originally Posted by adrikito View Post
    Really? Hmmm... Weird.. Watching the Films Bruce I did not discarded that he was still like this in comics.



    I see.. Hoping to not see that rejection because if Some fans are THAT ANNOYING Damian will be unable to have any ship because "His fans" will sabotage it.. Perhaps I should be "happy" that at least his first kiss happened in this situation..

    I think that even if it was another character like Emiko they would reject her too.

    It was a mistake confirm Damian in that Connor adventure that soon.. Is like Damijons and others saw it as Their Last chance to see The Damian that they want and be wrong made Williamson receive their hate.


    Are DICK and JASON that cursed for their fanatics fault?
    The once Hated Damian now has people who has their own plans or vision of him and are frustated if this does not happen...



    I feel the same.. I saw a female fan calling these reactions misogyny. That Robin is like one RSOB 2.0 but because here he was a Kid nobody complained about Maya.

    Increase his fanbase.. To think that I wanted that many years ago and now I think that increase it even more will only create more problems.

    Why people can not limit to see his adventures and enough? Not decide what he should make. PERHAPS Connor avoided a Lot of Shit if as Asexual he is avoiding be Shipped.
    Officially and in main canon? Perhaps. By the fandom and/or hardcore shippers? Blood relation doesn't stop them. Extreme age gaps don't bother them. And completely fanon (fan made canon, not the real thing) style characterizations that have little to no basis in actual canon, are the norm.

    I have looked into the Abyss, and it looked back.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jackalope89 View Post
    Officially and in main canon? Perhaps. By the fandom and/or hardcore shippers? Blood relation doesn't stop them. Extreme age gaps don't bother them. And completely fanon (fan made canon, not the real thing) style characterizations that have little to no basis in actual canon, are the norm.

    I have looked into the Abyss, and it looked back.
    When you learn that Incest shippers already made a fanfic with porn image about Damian and Respawn(short time after we learned his origin) you see until which point some people is Hopeless.. and do not even deserve be called a character fan.

    Yeah. Hardcore Shippers are the WORST.. They act like Lunatics.


    The abyss.. Damiantag in twitter when I visited it for First time. I had to block MANY PEOPLE(most of them Damijons) to be able to visit the tag and avoid a lot of controversial content.
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    Do you know how many fans DamianXRaven still has. Animation is such a powerful tool.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HsssH View Post
    I'm not sure if I'd agree that asexuality is "core" trait for Damian, but at the same time it would make him stand out a bit more in the franchise where every character has had like 15 different relationships. Having one or two characters who don't care about that would be refreshing.
    As much as I love Damian to be ace (as an ace who never have relationship on the first 20 years of my life and still counting), I don't think it will work. Damian is the blood son of Batman. Not only that, he's the grandson of Ra's Al Ghul. He also has unique personality that can be perceived as "cool bad boy" if we do some mind gymnastic (because that's how he represents in Damian x Marienette ship). Like majority of people are looking forward to see who will get paired with him, how is their chemistry and what will they bring to the already extraordinary Damian's genetic pool. Sure any pairing was bound to not last long, but their shipper will hold tight their headcanon and move forward with it. More relationship means more dedicated shippers means more money to DC

    This pro-natalist mindset truly rolled my eyes, but the fact remains that relationship is profitable, especially to a multiple legacies character like Damian.

    Quote Originally Posted by HsssH View Post
    Wasn't that also written by Williamson?
    Yes but strangely I don't see Damian's attraction to Kara. Dick just teased him and he deflected with straight face. IIRC in comic he shows attraction to Katana, Emiko, Djinn, and of course Flatline
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rac7d* View Post
    Do you know how many fans DamianXRaven still has. Animation is such a powerful tool.
    I know.. I see them active in twitter.

    They are fine. Less obsessed with Damian than others.

    Quote Originally Posted by Light of Justice View Post
    He also has unique personality that can be perceived as "cool bad boy" if we do some mind gymnastic (because that's how he represents in Damian x Marienette ship). Like majority of people are looking forward to see who will get paired with him, how is their chemistry and what will they bring to the already extraordinary Damian's genetic pool. Sure any pairing was bound to not last long, but their shipper will hold tight their headcanon and move forward with it. More relationship means more dedicated shippers means more money to DC
    I only want to see him shipped to see and understand how the character would react to have a girlfriend. But perhaps I have the Damirae as example for now.

    Only that. That I do not have plans to become in shipper. Just watch how the Bat&Cat ended.. Why spend years as shipper and see they break their relation?



    Even Tim and Steph who were considered a couple during looong time ended their relation.. Anyway is not like I feel sad here. To me Tim is more one excuse to see Steph more than other thing.

    I would prefer Steph with Cass. But with Gotham with many bisexual women is impossible.
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    Quote Originally Posted by adrikito View Post
    I know.. I see them active in twitter.

    They are fine. Less obsessed with Damian than others.



    I only want to see him shipped to see and understand how the character would react to have a girlfriend. But perhaps I have the Damirae as example for now.

    Only that. That I do not have plans to become in shipper. Just watch how the Bat&Cat ended.. Why spend years as shipper and see they break their relation?



    Even Tim and Steph who were considered a couple during looong time ended their relation.. Anyway is not like I feel sad here. To me Tim is more one excuse to see Steph more than other thing.

    I would prefer Steph with Cass. But with Gotham with many bisexual women is impossible.
    I mean couples can and do break up. There's nothing wrong with ship so long as fans understand that these characters seldom have one true ship. Like you said, the story is the important thing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by adrikito View Post
    I only want to see him shipped to see and understand how the character would react to have a girlfriend. But perhaps I have the Damirae as example for now.

    Only that. That I do not have plans to become in shipper. Just watch how the Bat&Cat ended.. Why spend years as shipper and see they break their relation?
    Don't underestimate the power of desperate shipper. The sight of their OTP in one panel is enough to make them screaming for a whole day in instagram or twitter, and it will be free advertisement for DC. That's why DC feds shipper as much as they can but also create new dynamic that will gain more shipper. Even the shipper that already exist will create post or content to reassure their followers. Shipping war is profitable too. For example, Talia and Bruce kiss at the other day, BatCat shipper and BruTalia shipper are neck to neck on twitter and even I see BatCat shipper account was like "Don't mind the new comic, just keep reading BatCat wedding by Tom King and shows that BatCat is what we want!" or something like that. Thus they start to compare BatCat and BruTalia comic sales, not realizing that the true winner is DC.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Light of Justice View Post
    Don't underestimate the power of desperate shipper. The sight of their OTP in one panel is enough to make them screaming for a whole day in instagram or twitter, and it will be free advertisement for DC. That's why DC feds shipper as much as they can but also create new dynamic that will gain more shipper. Even the shipper that already exist will create post or content to reassure their followers. Shipping war is profitable too. For example, Talia and Bruce kiss at the other day, BatCat shipper and BruTalia shipper are neck to neck on twitter and even I see BatCat shipper account was like "Don't mind the new comic, just keep reading BatCat wedding by Tom King and shows that BatCat is what we want!" or something like that. Thus they start to compare BatCat and BruTalia comic sales, not realizing that the true winner is DC.
    I do not underestimate it... Some people made me afraid of it. With Damian I thought that I choosed one character that was not destined to something like this.

    Is because of this that Williamson received Shippers Toxic comments. Visiting some profiles I saw that 2 of them were clearly Damijons.
    Not the kind of persons that should talk too much knowing how people can perceive their ship.

    Yeah... DC started the Bat&Cat thing but now is calming Talia fanbase like if nothing happened and ship them is possible again. Even if Talia was humiliated once if I am not wrong during Tom King run against the batCat.
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    Quote Originally Posted by adrikito View Post
    I do not underestimate it... Some people made me afraid of it. With Damian I thought that I choosed one character that was not destined to something like this.

    Is because of this that Williamson received Shippers Toxic comments. Visiting some profiles I saw that 2 of them were clearly Damijons.
    Not the kind of persons that should talk too much knowing how people can perceive their ship.

    Yeah... DC started the Bat&Cat thing but now is calming Talia fanbase like if nothing happened and ship them is possible again. Even if Talia was humiliated once if I am not wrong during Tom King run against the batCat.
    Alas, near every character of every franchise is doomed to this kind of thing. How prolific it is, depends on how well known the franchise is. But its there.

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    Damian only hasn't shown a lot of interest in women in the past because he literally has only been 11-13 throughout most of his years of existence in comics. It has nothing to do with him not having any emotions towards girls. It makes he's only just now getting a love interest with Flatline.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DragonPiece View Post
    Damian only hasn't shown a lot of interest in women in the past because he literally has only been 11-13 throughout most of his years of existence in comics. It has nothing to do with him not having any emotions towards girls. It makes he's only just now getting a love interest with Flatline.
    Exactly,
    Nothing to argue here, Damian next arc is him and Flatline in Japan after the conclusion of shadow war

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    Quote Originally Posted by DragonPiece View Post
    Damian only hasn't shown a lot of interest in women in the past because he literally has only been 11-13 throughout most of his years of existence in comics. It has nothing to do with him not having any emotions towards girls. It makes he's only just now getting a love interest with Flatline.
    Nobody complained about Robin UNTIL HER RETURN. All because we have a Bunch of idiots that think that Damian should make whatever they say or all is wrong.
    Hoping that they leave soon and we add some new readers thanks to Shadow War arc.

    Say that is a "Flatline comic" is stupid when she will not be in Shadow War Arc.. Crossover that is more important than the rest of issues because connects Robin with Deathstroke and Batman. Where she does not appear.

    Those really interested in the crossover will have to read these ROBIN issues even if they do not read it..
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    Looking forward to Connor's story in the Pride issue.

    Damian is the ultimate Queer ally. That's 3 close associates that have come out as LGBTQ+ in the past few months not to mention that he personally recruited Jackson, Crush and Djinn for his team.

    Suck it all those on tumblr that were predicting/suggesting that he might be homophobic. Not forgetting everyone who suggested that DC should do a story where someone [ notably Damian] has an issue with Tim coming out.

    Fandom needs an introspective. Automatically believing the part Middle Eastern Robin to be the one most likely to have an issue with homosexually is ignorant as F*£k.

    Now have a story where he punches a homophobe.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CPSparkles View Post
    Damian is the ultimate Queer ally. That's 3 new LGBTQ+ in the past few months not to mention that he personally recruited Jackson, Crush and Djinn for his team.

    Suck it all those on tumblr that were predicting/suggesting that he might be homophobic. Not forgetting everyone who suggested that DC should do a story where someone [ notably Damian] has an issue with Tim coming out.

    Fandom needs an introspective. Automatically believing the part Middle Eastern Robin to be the one most likely to have an issue with homosexually is ignorant as F*£k.

    Now have a story where he punches a homophobe.
    Wait? People actually thought he was homophobic because he's part Middle Eastern?

    He may have blood from that region of Earth, but he was raised differently, very differently. He wasn't raised in the Middle East, he was raised within the League of Assassins, plus Talia and Ra's aren't the most religious people. And Damian wouldn't even insult Tim coming out, he'd probably insult him on why he can't hold a relationship long enough.

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