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    Quote Originally Posted by Primal Slayer View Post
    Dont get me wrong...the art is good, Artemis doesnt look bad but....they gave her such a cute baby face? It seems a bit off for her.
    Anime-Girl Same Face Syndrome probably.

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    It's kinda amusing seeing Artemis with a darker skin tone again after that one-shot retconned her into a white American girl.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bardkeep View Post
    It's totally apples and oranges, so I'll confess, I'm just still really salty about the origin change and mischaracterization of Donna Troy...
    The ramifications of that origin change highlight the unsavory racial elements of the "white savior" trope. The greatest Amazon of each tribe is, ostensibly, a white woman; with the exception of the Esquecida, and only because there are no white women in their tribe.

    And that Donna Troy depiction seems to be closer to the Finches version than any version I'm accustomed to. And that version has been carried through in all of Donna's recent depictions, including her appearances in Titans and in Steve Orlando's run.

    Otherwise, I loved the Artemis one-shot; the art in particular. And I like Artemis's new role as the keeper of magic.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zagre View Post
    Much better in fact. WFA rarely goes beyond "talented-but-still-learning-webcomic art" level (though admittedly it works for a slice-of-life sitcom).

    And the writing isn't bad bad either, this may be the first webtoon I actively follow.
    Yeah, only other Webtoon I'm following is the Zatanna one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Psy-lock View Post
    It's kinda amusing seeing Artemis with a darker skin tone again after that one-shot retconned her into a white American girl.
    I think Phil Jimenez was the first to actively present Artemis as a Brown/Middle Eastern woman. I miss that portrayal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Psy-lock View Post
    It's kinda amusing seeing Artemis with a darker skin tone again after that one-shot retconned her into a white American girl.
    If you look closer you can see that she constantly shifts from lighter to darker (white) skin in the webtoon. In some panels, she has the same skin color as Jason. However, her skin isn't as dark as the one time in the comics where she converses with Diana, Donna and Hippolyta (along with Nubia in attendance). All 4 of them were depicted with darker/olive skin.

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    Hmm, keep forgetting the Outlaws book gave Artemis a last name.


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    Artemis GRACE? They really made her into a white American girl lol

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    Let's just pretend it's like her Diana Prince identity

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    Quote Originally Posted by Psy-lock View Post
    Let's just pretend it's like her Diana Prince identity
    Spunds like a stage name anyway.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Psy-lock View Post
    Let's just pretend it's like her Diana Prince identity
    Quote Originally Posted by Zagre View Post
    Spunds like a stage name anyway.
    It's not her actual name. It's just an alias.
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    I could have been sworn the Artemis Grace name predates Outlaws.

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    I think the best we can hope for is that Artemis' American beginnings...are brushed under the rug and we can all continue with our head canon that she is indeed the Middle Eastern woman we all thought she was.

    And I agree that having the best Amazons all be white American women verges on Green Lantern levels of American exceptionalism wank and I'm not here for it.

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    Yeah, I get that the primary audience is American but one of the appeals of DC was that it wasn't so centered on America.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Agent Z View Post
    I could have been sworn the Artemis Grace name predates Outlaws.
    I saw it on wikipedia. Unless someone updated it after the webtoon, I feel like it must have some history?

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