Champions Appreciation 2022

**Ultimate Captain America** · 08-16-2022, 07:55 AM

That's why I did not mention the Young Avengers. "Avengers Jr." is just the idea suggested in that quote, which the Champions (and the Young Avengers) are not.

**Frostbite883** · 08-16-2022, 04:51 PM

Plus Ultra! by Cadhla182 on DeviantArt

**Huntsman Spider** · 08-16-2022, 05:37 PM

Originally Posted by Digifiend

Despite the name, so are the Young Avengers. They set up shop without permission, which is why Cassie was Stature rather than Ant-Girl - the Avengers wouldn't let her access Scott's helmet. She did acquire it later when she joined an official Avengers team (the Mighty Avengers), but Amadeus, who had no powers at the time, was the usual user instead.

There's no officially sanctioned teen Avengers team in the comics - Avengers Academy was the closest thing to that.

Originally Posted by Ultimate Captain America

That's why I did not mention the Young Avengers. "Avengers Jr." is just the idea suggested in that quote, which the Champions (and the Young Avengers) are not.

Thanks for the correction. That said, Avengers Academy was a good concept . . . though with Avengers Arena happening right after that and the ensuing fallout . . .

**Digifiend** · 08-17-2022, 04:05 AM

Yeah, the Academy itself seemed to exist until Secret Wars though, even though the book was over a few years earlier. ANAD Avengers explained that the team no longer had funding (that's why the team consisted of Tony, Sam Wilson and Vision, plus four rookies, three of whom were teenagers - the future Champions founders - who would've been banned from prior rosters due to their youth, they weren't getting paid), and Tony had to sell Avengers Tower and Avengers Mansion (they got the Mansion back in Zub's short Uncanny Avengers run later on) so presumably by then the Academy had closed. Though Rage of Ultron would've done it in anyway as they lost headmaster Hank Pym there.

If Hank came back, what would he make of the fact that not only does he have a daughter, but she's now friends with one of his Academy graduates (Finesse, who appeared as a villain in the second Unstoppable Wasp series, but defected from AIM to GIRL in the end)?

**Digifiend** · 08-17-2022, 11:20 AM

**Ultimate Captain America** · 08-19-2022, 11:39 AM

The champions returned... in the most unexpected comic: Savage Avengers #4

**Digifiend** · 08-19-2022, 11:49 AM

AU version, right? Deathlok there is Miles.

**Frontier** · 08-19-2022, 03:21 PM

Originally Posted by Digifiend

Sam looks so happy to be in this...

**Huntsman Spider** · 08-19-2022, 05:20 PM

Originally Posted by Ultimate Captain America

The champions returned... in the most unexpected comic: Savage Avengers #4

Originally Posted by Digifiend

AU version, right? Deathlok there is Miles.

Yeah, alternate future timeline.

**Frontier** · 08-22-2022, 09:39 PM

More merch and promo art for Ironheart armor in "Wakanda Forever."

Really surprised how much they seem to be doing with the character in this movie before her show.