Elektra Natchios - The Woman Without Fear Appreciation 2022

[scouse mouse]

I think is the first time Alex Ross has painted Elektra.

[vitaminbee]

I think is the first time Alex Ross has painted Elektra.

I can't say this is a great painting/drawing of her.

This dude wants to make an Elektra animated series so bad, and I want it too!

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Yes... I really do

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[scouse mouse]

I can't say this is a great painting/drawing of her.

None of them look particularly good. It shows the lack of decent female villains when Elektra, Black Cat and Emma Frost are on there.

spoilers:

Yes... I really do

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Ooh it's like having a celebrity on the forum!

[tsaimelemoni]

I think is the first time Alex Ross has painted Elektra.

I think so too. I wish it wasn't for a villains piece, though...

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Yes... I really do

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I really enjoy your work - it'll be a crime if Marvel doesn't make this happen!

[vitaminbee]

My issue with Alex Ross' art is that... it feels like he has one body type for men (though they get more variation than the women do) and one for women where theres so many more variations he could do. Look at Elektra, sure... she has varied. Miller draws her more bulky/strong where as a lot draw her tall, lean but strong (like Sienkiewicz, who is my personal favorite). I find his work falls a little flat because of it.

Ooh it's like having a celebrity on the forum!

I really enjoy your work - it'll be a crime if Marvel doesn't make this happen!

Thanks, I'm trying. She's never been in any animated property yet and it's shocking to me. It'd be a dream to make... I have a whole pitch ready!

[scouse mouse]

Daredevil #4 preview
https://aiptcomics.com/2022/10/07/ma...daredevil-4-2/

[phonogram12]

Daredevil #4 preview
https://aiptcomics.com/2022/10/07/ma...daredevil-4-2/

That looks really good. I like the inclusion of the viking and the spartan amongst the Hand's dead. I haven't been quite as onboard with this current arc as I was with the previous series, but this issue may turn that around.

[scouse mouse]

Well DD#4 went down just as we all expected with Elektra and Matt married, though how lawful the wedding is, is debatable. Would have liked more Elektra narration as it sort of annoyed me listening to Matt day how much he loved Kirsten but had to be with Elektra out of Duty. It still grinds on me the way she her life is constantly revolves around Matt in this run and this felt like another reminder of it. The close up of ger face when she found out Frank was running the Hand gave me some hope that Zdarsky is actually going to reference her previous relationship with him and acknowledge her life away from Matt.

[phonogram12]

Well DD#4 went down just as we all expected with Elektra and Matt married, though how lawful the wedding is, is debatable. Would have liked more Elektra narration as it sort of annoyed me listening to Matt day how much he loved Kirsten but had to be with Elektra out of Duty. It still grinds on me the way she her life is constantly revolves around Matt in this run and this felt like another reminder of it. The close up of ger face when she found out Frank was running the Hand gave me some hope that Zdarsky is actually going to reference her previous relationship with him and acknowledge her life away from Matt.

I get the frustration, but she's always going to be a supporting character supporting the main character in this book. The only way to get her to not be one is to take her out of the book.

If not here, ideally, I'd like to see her get her own series. That said, while I absolutely love the character, I just never really dug any of her ongoings (and Bendis and Rucka are two of my favorite writers). I did like that Black, White, and Blood/Red book, but that's about it.

I really wish Enemy of the State would've been the Elektra series Millar would've originally planned it to be. I'm not sure how people feel about his portrayal, but I liked it, personally.

[Rac7d*]

cant believe they finally tied the knot

[Captain Craig]

cant believe they finally tied the knot

Especially with Matt out there getting "smashed" by Jen Walters

[tsaimelemoni]

I think the argument is less that Elektra is a supporting character (a given, since it's not her book), but that her story is actively being re-written to reduce her agency and have every significant moment of her past center Matt.

She went from joining the Hand as a challenge to the Chaste and stemming from her own trauma to having been actively recruited for the sole purpose of trying to recruit Matt, for example.

For a great example of how to do it right, imo, check out Savage Avengers. Outside of her wearing her DD costume she is her own character, standing on her own abilities and agency despite being an ensemble. And her history with the Hand remains her own.

[scouse mouse]

I think the argument is less that Elektra is a supporting character (a given, since it's not her book), but that her story is actively being re-written to reduce her agency and have every significant moment of her past center Matt.

She went from joining the Hand as a challenge to the Chaste and stemming from her own trauma to having been actively recruited for the sole purpose of trying to recruit Matt, for example.

For a great example of how to do it right, imo, check out Savage Avengers. Outside of her wearing her DD costume she is her own character, standing on her own abilities and agency despite being an ensemble. And her history with the Hand remains her own.

Spot on Tsai. It's the reduction of her agency and making everything in her life about Matt. Savage is much better for her all round.

[scouse mouse]

This girl gets it:Screenshot_20221018-182544_Twitter.jpg

[tsaimelemoni]

Love that account! Their weekend recaps of books Elektra is in are always great