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    Quote Originally Posted by Kanos View Post
    I've never seen anyone think that Peter and MJ's relationship is getting awkward because of Spider-Man: Blue. It's stupid, it's like saying Peter and Aunt May's family relationship is awkward because he remembers Uncle Ben lol.
    Gerry Conway also added something to the story in Marvel#1000, MJ admitted she stayed with Peter because it's something Gwen would approve of.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Matt Rat View Post
    oh FFS.

    Peter talking to Gwen didn't make Peter and MJ's relationship awkward. Most people are mature enough to realize we will love many people in many ways over our lifetime and that love is infinite - it doesn't have a boundary, it doesn't have an expiration date. Remembering a love who died doesn't diminish one's current partner at all. After all, who is he with now? Is Peter supposed to sleep on top of Gwen's grave for the rest of his life? And as MJ points out, she misses Gwen too.

    Like, does this writer think widow/ers who remarry never think fondly about their past spouses or if they do, they don't love their new spouse? Or kids with stepparents can't love their new stepparent?

    (Not to mention, the story is as much about Peter and MJ as it is Peter and Gwen - I mean, I could do without the woobie canonization of St. Gwen that Jeph Loeb indulges in, but it's not like MJ doesn't play a big role - and even with Loeb doing his best to make Gwen the perfect dream girl, MJ is STILL the character who is more fun!).
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    Quote Originally Posted by TinkerSpider View Post
    oh FFS.

    Peter talking to Gwen didn't make Peter and MJ's relationship awkward. Most people are mature enough to realize we will love many people in many ways over our lifetime and that love is infinite - it doesn't have a boundary, it doesn't have an expiration date. Remembering a love who died doesn't diminish one's current partner at all. After all, who is he with now? Is Peter supposed to sleep on top of Gwen's grave for the rest of his life? And as MJ points out, she misses Gwen too.

    Like, does this writer think widow/ers who remarry never think fondly about their past spouses or if they do, they don't love their new spouse? Or kids with stepparents can't love their new stepparent?

    (Not to mention, the story is as much about Peter and MJ as it is Peter and Gwen - I mean, I could do without the woobie canonization of St. Gwen that Jeph Loeb indulges in, but it's not like MJ doesn't play a big role - and even with Loeb doing his best to make Gwen the perfect dream girl, MJ is STILL the character who is more fun!).
    Exactly right. This quote sums it up: “Peter, say hello to Gwen for me.” ( MJ)

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    Preview for ASM#1 is out and we have a bit more on what Peter did

    Whatever it is, it affects something just outside of Pennsylvania, but Anna and everyone else is based in NYC, I don't know if Krakoan medicine goes through shipments to the Pennsylvanian area or if there's a facility there where Anna receives her medication, so we're back to square one figuring out how this warrants a world without love.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris0013 View Post
    Was Anna even shown to have a medical condition before this story started?
    No, but her last speaking role was all the way back in OMIT, so something could've happened since then.

    Quote Originally Posted by Mercwmouth12 View Post
    Here's a food for thought:
    MJ will have her own mini Superior moment. We'll see her in a spirit form following around Moria Jane only watching what's going on trying to take control. Similar to what Peter did when Otto had is body
    Hopefully she's not as annoying as Peter was in this situation lol.

    Quote Originally Posted by Matt Rat View Post
    Wells seems to be ripping a lot of Slott off (makes sense, they all were brought up together during the BND days) so going the Superior route with Moira Jane makes sense, and it'd be a tribute to Superior Spider-Man's second issue which also dealt with the Peter/MJ relationship
    Does that mean Moira will masturbate in MJ's body while using MJ's memories?

    Quote Originally Posted by Matt Rat View Post
    Lol CBR articles.
    Quote Originally Posted by TheCape View Post
    We all know that BND was a collective mid-life crisis from Marvel back then

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lukmendes View Post
    No, but her last speaking role was all the way back in OMIT, so something could've happened since then.



    Hopefully she's not as annoying as Peter was in this situation lol.



    Does that mean Moira will masturbate in MJ's body while using MJ's memories?



    Lol CBR articles.
    Oh, mother of mercy . . .
    The spider is always on the hunt.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Huntsman Spider View Post
    Oh, mother of mercy . . .
    I mean let's face it, she would have a lot of material to use, it's a wonder Otto didn't do so more often .
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    We all know that BND was a collective mid-life crisis from Marvel back then

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lukmendes View Post
    I mean let's face it, she would have a lot of material to use, it's a wonder Otto didn't do so more often .
    In the infamous words of one Shinji Ikari after that scene in End of Evangelion . . . "I'm so f***ed up."
    The spider is always on the hunt.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lukmendes View Post
    I mean let's face it, she would have a lot of material to use, it's a wonder Otto didn't do so more often .
    That we know of.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kevinroc View Post
    That we know of.
    Okay. Let's keep this civil please

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    Quote Originally Posted by Matt Rat View Post
    Gerry Conway also added something to the story in Marvel#1000, MJ admitted she stayed with Peter because it's something Gwen would approve of.
    That was a weird take from Conway.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Frontier View Post
    That was a weird take from Conway.
    Especially since he was the one who wrote the original scene from ASM #122 . . . and developed much of their relationship in the first place.
    The spider is always on the hunt.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kevinroc View Post
    That we know of.
    Good point, maybe we have to ask Slott on twitter so we can have a number, and to be as accurate as possible we should ask for a a number before and after Superior#19, just so we can know how many times the Otto who returned after Superior has masturbated in Peter's body compared with the Otto who killed himself .

    Quote Originally Posted by Frontier View Post
    That was a weird take from Conway.
    Quote Originally Posted by Huntsman Spider View Post
    Especially since he was the one who wrote the original scene from ASM #122 . . . and developed much of their relationship in the first place.
    That and it makes it look like MJ is just following what Gwen wanted, instead of being with Peter to support a grieving friend, which's what the original scene indicates.

    Oh well, here's the page, just be warned that it's drawn by Greg Land:



    And of course this goes for the Saint Gwen characterization, urgh lol.
    Quote Originally Posted by TheCape View Post
    We all know that BND was a collective mid-life crisis from Marvel back then

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    In the style of Captain Kirk in Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan: "LAAAAAAAANNNNDDD!"
    The spider is always on the hunt.

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    The basic idea is that Gwen didn't die for Peter, she died for MJ.

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