View Poll Results: Should Joe Biden Run For A Second Term?

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    No!

    Joe did his part. He beat Trump and helped to (temporarily?) save our democracy. Regardless of what happens during his term, his place in history is set. Now it’s time to pass the torch. We don’t need an 82 year old man out on the campaign trail.

    Only problem is there doesn’t seem to be another candidate who can win a national election. Harris is wildly unpopular and Sanders is even older than Joe. Hopefully someone emerges in the next 2 years. Gavin Newsom maybe?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Robotman View Post
    No!

    Joe did his part. He beat Trump and helped to (temporarily?) save our democracy. Regardless of what happens during his term, his place in history is set. Now it’s time to pass the torch. We don’t need an 82 year old man out on the campaign trail.

    Only problem is there doesn’t seem to be another candidate who can win a national election. Harris is wildly unpopular and Sanders is even older than Joe. Hopefully someone emerges in the next 2 years. Gavin Newsom maybe?
    While Sanders is is old enough that he probably has to fight off someone trying to wrap him up like a mummy on a regular basis?

    He really is the most "Solid..." of Biden/Trump/Sanders when it comes to an older person sounding like they still have it on the ball.

    That said, that all goes nose over tail if you run Sanders against someone around the age of DeSantis or Haley.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Robotman View Post
    No!

    Joe did his part. He beat Trump and helped to (temporarily?) save our democracy. Regardless of what happens during his term, his place in history is set. Now it’s time to pass the torch. We don’t need an 82 year old man out on the campaign trail.

    Only problem is there doesn’t seem to be another candidate who can win a national election. Harris is wildly unpopular and Sanders is even older than Joe. Hopefully someone emerges in the next 2 years. Gavin Newsom maybe?
    Gavin Newsom? He has too much baggage to make a run for the presidency.

    I don't trust Kamala Harris.

    Bernie Sanders too old by now.


    Elizabeth Warren might have another shot in the race for presidency?

    Jay Inslee or John Hickenlooper maybe?

    Yes, I know these three lost the presidential primary once before. So did Hillary Clinton and Joe Biden who ran for the president more than once.

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    Quote Originally Posted by numberthirty View Post
    While Sanders is is old enough that he probably has to fight off someone trying to wrap him up like a mummy on a regular basis?

    He really is the most "Solid..." of Biden/Trump/Sanders when it comes to an older person sounding like they still have it on the ball.

    That said, that all goes nose over tail if you run Sanders against someone around the age of DeSantis or Haley.
    I agree with this. I think it's a pity he didn't get a chance, he seemed the best option from the last election cycle to me. But I guess free healthcare and free college is probably too "left" for average American.

    I've seen secretary Blinken's name mentioned. Any chances there?
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    Sanders is well spoken and I think has more there mentally then Biden. I am not going the Biden is off his rocker route like others but I over all think that Sanders is a better speaker and albe to form his thoughts and speak on the fly better.

    But Cat Lady is right. His view are too far left for a lot of people. And if he was the main on the ticket the cries of Socialist and Commie and all the other crap would be deafening. He is popular but to be hinest I dont see him winning the big seat even if he were younger.
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    Secretary Pete would be my choice; he's amazing!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kieran_Frost View Post
    Secretary Pete would be my choice; he's amazing!
    Sadly not going to happen in our current climate.
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    Quote Originally Posted by babyblob View Post
    Sadly not going to happen in our current climate.
    Actually, he might be the best person to run for exactly that reason. Gay and trans rights have broad acceptance. While the issue of trans-women in sports is often ill understood and full of stereotypes, the exact best way to combat it is to shine a light directly on the GOP's extremism and its ever deepening ties to it. The issue, of course, is can he really broad and diverse support in communities of color? Does he understand what a campaign has to do not to cede and communicate on the latino vote? He's shown he can communicate well and with clarity on his several Fox News appearances, and he did well in Iowa, much to the Sanders' campaigns chagrin.
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    This is going to sound horrible, but part of me wishes that the democratic candidate will be another straight, cis, white, christian man. Just so there is less of a chance that some voters will only vote for a republican candidate because they don't want any minority or a woman as a president. I wish the society was past that, but it's not and the general polarization and negativity in current society is so strong, it seems to me that it would be better to stick to a safer option.

    But I'm glad I will not be making that choice.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Catlady in training View Post
    This is going to sound horrible, but part of me wishes that the democratic candidate will be another straight, cis, white, christian man. Just so there is less of a chance that some voters will only vote for a republican candidate because they don't want any minority or a woman as a president. I wish the society was past that, but it's not and the general polarization and negativity in current society is so strong, it seems to me that it would be better to stick to a safer option.

    But I'm glad I will not be making that choice.
    Some people may bash this but I do not.

    There is the battle of what should happen and what we want to see VS what will happen. The country at this point is long past due for the first Female President, It is long past due for a Female POC president, and a LTGB+ President. It is 2022 and we should as a society put that that hate to bed.

    But that is not where we are at. Maybe a few years ago we could have worked towards it a little easier but that is before The GOP went all in on Trump and it was okay for the hate mongers to come full force out of the wood work.

    In 2024 Trump if he runs Or Desantis or someone in the GOP of their ilk cane not win. it would destroy this county I mean we think things are bad now? 4 more years of Trump or 4 years of Desantis. Shew on that.

    So yes it would be great to have a gay man as president. And the LTGBQ+ community will go nuts getting to the polls to vote for him I think. But so would the hate mongers, the family first, American values crowd. And yes those people are sadly always going to be there. But what needs to happen is A Democratic president that can run and win and do what Biden tried to do and work towards putting the Era of Trump to bed. And if a Strong Democratic President does run and does beat Trump or Desantis, maybe just maybe the GOP will start to see that brand of politics is not going to fly any more and maybe start to move away from the QOP.

    I love Pete I love when he ran and I love that he was taken seriously. If he runs Ill vote for, ill campaign for him. But Maybe it is the Cynic in me buy I just dont trust America right now to vote in a gay as president.
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    Any one who says that Pete running right now would not be the most vile hate filled campaign in American Politics, that attacks on the LTGBQ+ community would not sky rocket to teach us our place and keep us away from the polls has a faith in the American System that borders on the insane.
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    Quote Originally Posted by babyblob View Post
    Any one who says that Pete running right now would not be the most vile hate filled campaign in American Politics, that attacks on the LTGBQ+ community would not sky rocket to teach us our place and keep us away from the polls has a faith in the American System that borders on the insane.
    It's not about faith in the system, honestly. I'm just not sure that politically boxing out Buttigieg because he's gay in this climate is in anyone's best interest. Confronting GOP LGBTQ+ hysteria directly and head on is better than letting it continue to metastasize.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tendrin View Post
    It's not about faith in the system, honestly. I'm just not sure that politically boxing out Buttigieg because he's gay in this climate is in anyone's best interest. Confronting GOP LGBTQ+ hysteria directly and head on is better than letting it continue to metastasize.
    I understand that. I do. But it is also about winning 2024. Fighting for change is a very great goal. If people vote and Pete gets the nomination I will support and back him as much as I can.

    But there has to be realism. How hard is it going to be to fight for change when everything we have gained is taken away if Trump or a GOP of his kind gets in? They are already taking away the rights of woman and minorities. How hard is it going to be to get those rights back if A GOP takes the White House in 2024.

    Texas wants to take away trans children from their parents, Florida passed the dont say gay bill and wants to pass that bill about Drag shows, even in liberal states there are people who hate gay rights being talked about in school, or pride clubs or anything.

    It would feel great to have Pete or any other LTGBQ+ Candidate on the ticket, you are doing this to us well we have one of ours on the ticket take that! We would feel like we owned them and a lot of people would make a huge deal about it. But the morning after election day we would go from the righteous feelings of ownership and take that to "OH **** things are about to get much worse! We are so screwed!"

    I want Pete or any other LTGBQ+ Candidate to run and have a real shot at winning and I want them to run and get the nomination because they are the best for the country. Not as an own the GOP gimmick. And sadly whenever I hear anyone talk about Pete is 2024 that is how it comes across.

    It is not about being a defeatist or an enemy, or giving up. I know that is how some people will take. But it is about being real with what will happen. it is about wanting to keep the rights I have gained and not have them taken away or make things worse.

    And it is not just about LTGBQ+ rights. It is about woman and Minorites that are having their rights stripped away on a state level. It will only get worse with a GOP led White House in 2024.
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    Quote Originally Posted by babyblob View Post
    Some people may bash this but I do not.

    There is the battle of what should happen and what we want to see VS what will happen. The country at this point is long past due for the first Female President, It is long past due for a Female POC president, and a LTGB+ President. It is 2022 and we should as a society put that that hate to bed.

    But that is not where we are at. Maybe a few years ago we could have worked towards it a little easier but that is before The GOP went all in on Trump and it was okay for the hate mongers to come full force out of the wood work.

    In 2024 Trump if he runs Or Desantis or someone in the GOP of their ilk cane not win. it would destroy this county I mean we think things are bad now? 4 more years of Trump or 4 years of Desantis. Shew on that.

    So yes it would be great to have a gay man as president. And the LTGBQ+ community will go nuts getting to the polls to vote for him I think. But so would the hate mongers, the family first, American values crowd. And yes those people are sadly always going to be there. But what needs to happen is A Democratic president that can run and win and do what Biden tried to do and work towards putting the Era of Trump to bed. And if a Strong Democratic President does run and does beat Trump or Desantis, maybe just maybe the GOP will start to see that brand of politics is not going to fly any more and maybe start to move away from the QOP.

    I love Pete I love when he ran and I love that he was taken seriously. If he runs Ill vote for, ill campaign for him. But Maybe it is the Cynic in me buy I just dont trust America right now to vote in a gay as president.
    Pretty much this. If you asked me 10 years ago, I would be confident that a female president is a sure thing and I wouldn't understand how that could be an issue in this day and age, much less in USA, which always semed like a open, liberal, democratic country to me. But after seeing the ugliness that was the 2016 race, plus all the other political and cultural division from around that time, it seems like the situation has regressed (though maybe that's just me following politics more closely).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Catlady in training View Post
    Pretty much this. If you asked me 10 years ago, I would be confident that a female president is a sure thing and I wouldn't understand how that could be an issue in this day and age, much less in USA, which always semed like a open, liberal, democratic country to me. But after seeing the ugliness that was the 2016 race, plus all the other political and cultural division from around that time, it seems like the situation has regressed (though maybe that's just me following politics more closely).
    Sadly we have regressed. Some people say we havnt, that these people have always been around so it is nothing new. But they have been more quiet more hidden. No that in itself is a good thing.

    But when we have hate groups feeling like they can speak more open and more free, Candidates talking openly about their hatred for LTGBQ+ community. Not just a "I dont believe in gay marriage but a These people are vile, they are groomers, they are sick, they need to be wiped out." We had a hate group answering the call of a former president! That used to be more of the fringe hardcore haters but now it seems every day. Minorites and woman are having rights stripped of them that they had just a couple years ago.

    How can anyone not look at this as a major regression in society.
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