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    Default Flash movie. What else could Barry change in DC movies?

    According to a recent CBR article. The flash movie will change everything Snyder did in dceu films.

    Dr Quinzel being seduced by Ivy not joker would be cool..
    What would you like to see changed?

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    From the article, the elimination of God-Batman will be just fine. Batfemale demoted to small player will also be just fine. Get a new Superman. Cut all the focus on personal sex lifes that ruined the Supergirl show. Let everyone do what they want without it being a focal plot point in the movies or shows.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Captain Smith View Post
    From the article, the elimination of God-Batman will be just fine. Batfemale demoted to small player will also be just fine. Get a new Superman. Cut all the focus on personal sex lifes that ruined the Supergirl show. Let everyone do what they want without it being a focal plot point in the movies or shows.
    Sorry but it's what they want. They want more talking, more feelings, more talking about feelings, see? Men no talk - men smash! So 20th century. Look at Batwoman for the blueprint to runaway, mega-like Last Jedi success.

    Can't wait!

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    Quote Originally Posted by GOLGO 13 View Post
    Sorry but it's what they want. They want more talking, more feelings, more talking about feelings, see? Men no talk - men smash! So 20th century. Look at Batwoman for the blueprint to runaway, mega-like Last Jedi success.

    Can't wait!
    I mean, the Marvel movies are extraordinarily successful and have a decent amount of focus on the heroes as people outside of punching. In fact during the Silver Age that hook is arguably what allowed Marvel to overtake DC. That's been an issue with the DC movies: if your audience doesn't actually care about your heroes, they have a hard time getting invested in seeing them across multiple films.

    See: the flaccid responses to Superman's death scene.

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    It is safe to assume wb does not really want batman and superman to be heavily connected to the dceu anymore, although putting faith in ezra's flash may be too much since he has a mixed reception.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Captain Smith View Post
    From the article, the elimination of God-Batman will be just fine. Batfemale demoted to small player will also be just fine. Get a new Superman. Cut all the focus on personal sex lifes that ruined the Supergirl show. Let everyone do what they want without it being a focal plot point in the movies or shows.
    Quote Originally Posted by GOLGO 13 View Post
    Sorry but it's what they want. They want more talking, more feelings, more talking about feelings, see? Men no talk - men smash! So 20th century. Look at Batwoman for the blueprint to runaway, mega-like Last Jedi success.

    Can't wait!
    What the hell is all this "Batfemale" and negativity about feelings about?
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    If we’re changing anything about Quinzel, then I’d rather just see her elect to become Harley Quinn on her own.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AnthonyO'Brien View Post
    Dr Quinzel being seduced by Ivy not joker would be cool..
    Quote Originally Posted by TheRay View Post
    If we’re changing anything about Quinzel, then I’d rather just see her elect to become Harley Quinn on her own.
    I don't get it. In the cartoon, the comic books, pretty much everything, Quinzel is always seduced by the Joker, is his henchwoman for a period, realizes what a toxic relationship that is, they break up, she hooks up with Ivy. Retconning that in the film seems kind of pointless, like...I don't see why. The only thing that would be worth changing is making it so instead of Joker dumping her, she dumped him, ala the Harley Quinn cartoon. But at this point I'd rather just have her and Ivy meet in a Harley and Ivy movie and fall in love. Then maybe a post-credits scene with Catwoman leading into a Gotham City Sirens movie.


    Something I would retcon is Lex Luthor being Eisenberg, that was a serious miscast. And Leto's Joker. Those have been the only serious miscasts. I'm okay with Ezra's Barry.

    Actual film events worth retconning, I would start with Clark letting his father die. I know a lot of people whine about Superman killing Zod, but while I'm not a fan of how that scene was executed, I think the whole Superman can never ever kill ever not even once is stupid. But letting his daddy die was clearly just the worst. If his dad's gotta die, just make it a heart attack.

    The whole stupid "Martha" line. Just...please, no more.

    The kid in Birds of Prey like, stole the real Cassandra Cain's name or something.

    The Detachable Kid's death in The Suicide Squad. Truly the mightiest man should have a better showing than that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thwhtGuardian View Post
    What the hell is all this "Batfemale" and negativity about feelings about?
    Something something SJW something something Woke something.

    That seems to be the general argument that crowd makes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GOLGO 13 View Post
    They want more talking, more feelings, more talking about feelings, see?
    Can't wait!
    I mean, to be fair, we have seen violence a billion times and can rewatch it whenever we want.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheRay View Post
    I mean, to be fair, we have seen violence a billion times and can rewatch it whenever we want.
    I'd like to see heroes be more self-reflective and ask whether violence is always necessary.

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    I think we get that too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Captain Smith View Post
    Cut all the focus on personal sex lifes that ruined the Supergirl show
    I can get behind this. This usually is so unnecessary. It's just not really the part of the story we care about.

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    I also meant that there are too many female Bat types around. Same with crowds of various Robins, Nightwings. They get damaged and hurt while Bruce just sails on, recruiting cannon fodder.

    As far as personal iife, I totally support people's personal choice but in the genre I like, it is irrelevant to what I want out of the story lines. In some of the DC shows, it takes over too much of the show time. If I were watching Diners, Drive Ins and Dives - I wouldn't want to waste food time with the personal discovery of the destination owner in discussion with Guy. I want to see the food. Same with genre - that personal drama is better done as focus in more mature and better written dramatic shows.

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    I wish he would change the actor who plays Barry completely. I hate the Snyder Barry.

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