Jessica Jones (Netflix) and Luke Cage (Netflix) vs Kate Bishop (mcu)

[Beadle]

Thing is; there were references to Hulk vs Abomination in either Like Cage or Jessica Jones, while the invasion of NY is referenced as well (being described as "the incident iirc). So I don't think they are all that seperate.

That’s what they’re saying. The MCU happens to them. Not the other way around.

You didn’t hear about DD, Jessica, Cage, Danny, Frank, Elektra, Fisk, Bullseye, Killgrave or any of the others in any of the MCU movies or in Agents of SHIELD, WandaVision, Loki or Falcon & Winter Soldier (which are the ‘hard’ MCU) until now.

[Twickster]

Yep. And further to what Beadle said, Agents of Shield is soft continuity as well (particularly after Hawkeye as it appears there is a new Mockingbird now).

[Sharpandpointies]

Pretty much. MCU's official word, it seems, is that Agents of Shield is NOT canon.

[Oswin]

The easiest way i can explain it is, the mcu movies and and the recent disney plus series were created by marvel studios under the supervision of kevin feige. The netflix series were only in association with marvel (agents of shields by marvel television, not studios)
Feige had no input in the netflix series, so netflix could pretty much do whatever they wanted storywise, if im not mistaken… i think dare devil was even rated R. That already is a red flag for disney hehe..so yea. I think they will explain the netflix shows as a different universe within the multi verse, but not canon to the marvel movies main time line..which also explains why the main mcu dd and kingpin look like their netflix counterparts.

[Beadle]

I can’t see a certain scene from S1 E3(?) of Netflix Daredevil being in any fully-Disney-endorsed show. When the low-level criminal guy says Fisk’s name and then rather dramatically ends himself by face-butting that spike rather than waiting for Fisk to find out and take vengeance.

[Sharpandpointies]

I can’t see a certain scene from S1 E3(?) of Netflix Daredevil being in any fully-Disney-endorsed show. When the low-level criminal guy says Fisk’s name and then rather dramatically ends himself by face-butting that spike rather than waiting for Fisk to find out and take vengeance.

That was the one I was thinking of when I thought, 'I don't remember the rating, but if it wasn't R it should have been.'

[big_adventure]

Only Iron Fist or Defenders even could have been in the "Marvel Disney Approved" tier as far as ratings go. DD, Cage, Jones, Punisher were waaaayyyyyyy beyond anything the Mouse would have accepted.

[choptop]

That’s what they’re saying. The MCU happens to them. Not the other way around.

You didn’t hear about DD, Jessica, Cage, Danny, Frank, Elektra, Fisk, Bullseye, Killgrave or any of the others in any of the MCU movies or in Agents of SHIELD, WandaVision, Loki or Falcon & Winter Soldier (which are the ‘hard’ MCU) until now.

To be fair there's not much to mention or reason.